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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

scubes said:
If they had s card that was amazing why wouldn’t you want to show it off.but instead they have kept outa the public eye . Very worrying indeed .
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The only reason I can see would be to shift old 10 series cards at MSRPs. But if the overstock is in the low end cards then this does not really make sense
 
bigmike20vt said:
ahh yeah that rings a bell now :) (its was a loooong time ago now, many many beers drank and brain cells lost since then!.)

I actually tried to pre-order a 2080 last night (sadly not from occuk) however fate must have intervened... my credit card was declined for some reason after setting up a visapay account.
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I was able to get the MSI Duke on the 20th for £719 -- we'll see on the review results whether I keep the preorder.

Even if you could software unlock the extra cores on the 2080 for the full 3072 (from 2944) -- which is highly unlikely since both AMD and nV now "physically castrate" chips -- the gain would be so small (maybe 1-2% extra rasterization) it would hardly be worth it, unlike historical unlocks which basically moved you up a whole card tier. In fact, such a tiny chip nerf begs the question as to why nV decided to lock them down on 2080. It's worth noting TMUs, tensor cores, RT cores, SMs are all slightly reduced on the 2080 from the full, unlocked TU104/Quadro 5000s. I suspect the lock down of the extra shaders, cores etc on 2080 was both so nV could bin subtly faulty Quadro 5000s and so they could differentiate 2080 from Quadro 5000.

Visapay is fiddly the first large purchase after you set it up: it likes to decline the first time to make sure you're serious :)
 
bru said:
I thought it was at the request of reviewers, so they can do full reviews, which could be due to lack luster performance, but it could just as easily be because they perform better than expected.

We will just have to wait and see.
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Reviewers were really unhappy about the lack of time to benchmark (unscheduled weekend work etc) prior to the Vega release. I seem to remember hurried, unfinished, to be continued reviews which probably didn't help that release.
 
harmattan said:
Visapay is fiddly the first large purchase after you set it up: it likes to decline the first time to make sure you're serious :)
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Thanks for the info :) i tried doing it 3 times and all declined. visapay said cant help to contact the bank, i contacted barclays who said they cant help and to contact barclaycard direct (apparently whilst i can do credit card house keeping on the barclays website they do not offer support).

i know i could use paypal.. but i am a tight northerner and i want the £5 discount off £20 or above spend offer which visapay are doing at the moment for the next few days :)

if i can get the visa pay discount, as well as 1.5% topcash back offer for the retailer in question, it will get the RTX 2080 down to under £700... i know it is silly mucking about for a few quid, but i dunno, its a mental thing somehow getting the RTX 2080 for under £700 makes it seem less of a rip off ;)
 
scubes said:
If they had s card that was amazing why wouldn’t you want to show it off.but instead they have kept outa the public eye . Very worrying indeed .
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That would just be delaying the inevitable, and Nvidia would know it. Were the 20xx series actually quite disappointing in terms of performance compared to Pascal (outside of the RTX features, which won't be immediately apparent anyway), there would be no long term benefit in them holding back this fact... heck, there would be a very questionable point to them even releasing the cards at all! I think there is more to this than meets the eye. As has been suggested, it certainly could be a deliberate move to shift as many Pascal cards as possible, and if that's the case, their strategy is clearly working... I've lost count how many people I've seen put off by RTX pricing/lack of benchmarks and have just gone and bought a 1080/1080Ti instead!

But all will be revealed next week of course, and then we'll know. It's all speculation until then.
 
This is disappointing if true :( for the 2080ti

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How are they doing those benchmarks if there isn't even a Turing driver yet? The reviewers don't even have it yet.
 
Vega said:
https://s22.q4cdn.com/364334381/files/doc_presentations/2018/09/JHH_GTCJapan2018_FINAL.pdf

Hmm, dividing the chart up with a ruler, that's 51 FPS for 1080 Ti and 75 FPS for 2080 Ti in normal raster. So a 47% performance increase. I'm satisfied with that.
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So, some people might have noticed I’m not the biggest of proponents for Turing. However, if that was the average performance hike I’d be happy for buyers, my thoughts have tended towards less, and whilst I still think pricing is an absolute joke, at least we’re talking almost 50% performance boost for the people who’ve paid the early adopters tax. Of course it’s a huge assumption, given you came to that conclusion using a ruler :p

If the prices were say, 10-20% higher than last gen RRP, I’d probably bite at that. Mainly so I could finally invest in a proper 4K HDR 100Hz+ monitor. Probably the Asus as Acer still uses the tramp stamp logo; people spending north of two grand on their electrical equipment deserve to have something that looks like it was made for grownups.

bru said:
Exactly, there could be ny number of reasons for it, but as always people think the worst.
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C’mon now fella, none of us know for sure but it’s not like there haven’t been quite a few red flags.

Simon Belmont said:
Next weeks going to be interesting to say the least.
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Oh yes :D
 
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Vega said:
https://s22.q4cdn.com/364334381/files/doc_presentations/2018/09/JHH_GTCJapan2018_FINAL.pdf

Hmm, dividing the chart up with a ruler, that's 51 FPS for 1080 Ti and 75 FPS for 2080 Ti in normal raster. So a 47% performance increase. I'm satisfied with that.
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I'd be happy with that personally but still hoping for more. Looking at the 2070 and its much less cudas vs 2080Ti. 2080Ti has nearly 90% more cudas than 2070.

Mainly as this puts the 2070 still a good chunk behind the 1080Ti like 1080 level in performance.
 
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Are all those people who don't use the GeForce Experience, or have a Nvidia account, that are getting the 20s, now going to get them, seen as they are needed for the DLSS ?
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Are all those people who don't use the GeForce Experience, or have a Nvidia account, that are getting the 20s, now going to get them, seen as they are needed for the DLSS ?
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Never thought of this, is this for sure? If we will be forced to use GeForce Experience if you want all the features of the 20 series, it would be another tick in the negative column for me.
 
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