Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

[spikerules]

1200W PSU here with overclocked 7900X and 1080Ti and power draw can peak 900W when gaming alone. For X299 refresh and Turing, I fully expect to be making good use of 1KW+.

Also, it's not problematic; more due to efficiency.

Waaaaat? No way... the recommended psu for the 1080ti is like 500-600w isn’t it?

 

[MasterOC]

I just thought for efficiency and I also read stability... and you know the environment

I say this because I was going to get a bigger psu, just in case I wanted to go nvlink or sli or whatever they call it now, but read it’s actully bad for the system stability, the PSU and the efficiency

Edit - Oh and I’m wanting to keep my electricity bill down after buying a Tesla and charging from home. And yes I did edit in that I have a Tesla to show off! Lol

never heard or seen of a higher wattage PSU inherently affecting system stability. efficiency is the only thing , and even then its a matter of pennies not pounds. I plan to be dead long before my affect on the world is apparent. ill happily raise the temps of the uk

 

[Gregster]

What exactly are you running to have a 1300w psu in your system exactly? I’ve got an 850w and that should be fine with the XC ultra 2080Ti and an oc 8086k... you do realise that running a psu with excessive wattage in a system that doesn’t need it can also be problematic? Or so I’ve read...

I had replied to the reason I have that PSU and where on earth did you get it will be problematic from? It is a superb PSU made by Superflower and super efficient. You do come across as a bit rude at times.

 

[Gregster]

So what's the news, do the reviews still go live tomorrow?
I read somewhere card's have been delayed? Is this AIB cards?

2pm they go live tomorrow. I look forward to it and hoping to see some nice gains but regardless, DLSS and RT are why I bought the 2080Ti.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

Thanks Gregster, are we still expecting the early adopters pre-orders to be shipped the day after as well?

 

[Gregster]

Thanks Gregster, are we still expecting the early adopters pre-orders to be shipped the day after as well?

No probs and really unsure of what is what in ordering terms. I sent my retailer a message and basically said the 27th but could be before. I have planned for the 29th ish, so fingers crossed it will be with me then.

 

[tommybhoy]

I can't see it being based on anything more telling than ASIC quality.

Hoping that's all there is to it but the underlying NDA issue is still evident, it's been the cloudiest release I've ever known as they are usually brimming with confidence and screaming from the rooftops by now, instead they are very subdued in comparison imo.

 

[Boot_Loop]

The way they've handled this release is mind boggling.

I'm waiting for TechPowerUp's review performance summary, and waiting to see 2080 performance be around 10% faster than a 1080 Ti only. The 2080 Ti is gonna be interesting for the insane power draw. I wonder if this will suddenly become not important now that it's not an AMD card they are reviewing...

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

No probs and really unsure of what is what in ordering terms. I sent my retailer a message and basically said the 27th but could be before. I have planned for the 29th ish, so fingers crossed it will be with me then.

Ah ok so pushed back a week then.

Gamers Nexus and DF will be the only one's I'll read.

 

[bigmike20vt]

I wonder if this will suddenly become not important now that it's not an AMD card they are reviewing...

show me a card from AMD which can trade blows with a 2080ti and your point has merit.
the problem with amd is not is (out of the box) power usage in isolation.

it is its (out of the box) power usage compared with nvidia offerings at the same / weaker performance levels. (imho)

IF AMDs 7nm cards can compete at the top end and use less power then i will be happy. until then you are trying to build a strawman imo.

 

[Gregster]

Ah ok so pushed back a week then.

Gamers Nexus and DF will be the only one's I'll read.

I will probably scoot over them all as such but take with a pinch of salt. I expect a few comments on the power draw from the usuals but if performance is there and needs a plasma reactor to run it, I really don't care

 

[VincentHanna]

Yeah, I really like Digital Foundry analysis.

 

[Boot_Loop]

show me a card from AMD which can trade blows with a 2080ti and your point has merit.
the problem with amd is not is (out of the box) power usage in isolation.

it is its (out of the box) power usage compared with nvidia offerings at the same / weaker performance levels. (imho)

IF AMDs 7nm cards can compete at the top end and use less power then i will be happy. until then you are trying to build a strawman imo.

Nope the same power draw shenanigans were applied to the 480/580 vs 1060. Despite the Polaris cards having slightly more performance, reviewers/fanboys made a huge deal out of, what, 30-40W extra power and claimed this was a deal breaker. Don't pretend it didn't happen.

And it's not so much the power draw - performance, it's the heat and resulting cooling noise required to cool that is an issue for me. So if the 2080 Ti is a hot and power hungry beast, that needn't be downplayed just because the performance is there.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Waaaaat? No way... the recommended psu for the 1080ti is like 500-600w isn’t it?

Overclocked 7900X can pull a fair bit of current, too. Plus a large array of fans running at 20% duty on 1400mm+ of rad space.

 

[Shocky-FM]

I'd expect so for £300 more! The really interesting comparison will be GTX 2070 v GTX 1080 Ti (for anyone that isn't interested in ray tracing until FPS rises) since they are about the same price.

It wouldn't be much of an upgrade if it cost around the same as a GTX1080.

 

[VincentHanna]

Nope the same power draw shenanigans were applied to the 480/580 vs 1060. Despite the Polaris cards having slightly more performance, reviewers/fanboys made a huge deal out of, what, 30-40W extra power and claimed this was a deal breaker. Don't pretend it didn't happen.

And it's not so much the power draw - performance, it's the heat and resulting cooling noise required to cool that is an issue for me. So if the 2080 Ti is a hot and power hungry beast, that needn't be downplayed just because the performance is there.

My reference cooled AMD 290x regularly used to hit the 104°C barrier, at which point it would downclock

Leaked benchmarks put the reference 2080ti at 67°c under load

Bit of a difference there!

 

[Gregster]

At times? Yes and mainly to you as I think you sometimes have double standards and seem like a bit of a fanboy. But this time I was not being rude I was honestly shocked. Also, I didn’t see that reply. We’ve already had this discussion without you.

Fanboys for either faction or any type of fanboy from DC vs Marvel, Sony Vs MS and in this case AMD Vs Nvidia is such a waste of time and makes otherwise intelligent people like yourself sound dumb.

Well I told you previous that waiting for the 2080Ti wasn't an issue for me and you felt you had to try and pull me up with that, you then jumped on me again and tried telling me that my PSU would be problematic (made me laugh that you heard that (from a guy in the pub?)). You really should chill down a bit and whilst I understand you are excited, calling people fanboys isn't very grown up either is it? I love Marvel and I love DC, I love NVidia and I love AMD. They make things that make me happy and that surely isn't a bad thing?

 

[Zeed]

Waaaaat? No way... the recommended psu for the 1080ti is like 500-600w isn’t it?

I call ******** on that.

My system Peakes at 480-490 watts from socket. Is 7900X taking Extra 400Wats over Heavy overclocked 2700x with volts that most would not run 24/7 ??

 

[Silent_Scone]

I call ******** on that.

My system Peakes at 480-490 watts from socket. Is 7900X taking Extra 400Wats over Heavy overclocked 2700x with volts that most would not run 24/7 ??

Call it what you want, it's possible to call ******** on anything if we stick to pseudoscience. Depends entirely on the use case and system configuration. Point is, those are the peaks I see at the socket.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

It wouldn't be much of an upgrade if it cost around the same as a GTX1080.

And with the 1080 Ti down to £600 it's virtually the same price. With a seeming 10-20% improvement for the RTX 2080 over it I have a hard time seeing how the cut down 2070 could match a 1080 Ti. We'll have to wait a bit longer to find out on that one.