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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

What amazes me about this is I've seen a few other sites get stock (of both the zotac and Asus dual card) and yet their price doesn't change from the preorder price. The minute ocuk gets a whiff of stock the price gets cranked on hard.

Some of these cards that are now 1400 were 1150 last week. Apparently they're gold plated special editions or something. :rolleyes:
 
VincentHanna said:
Are you about to appear on the 2080 Ti ROH with Asus Dual 2080 Ti NVLink? :)
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Hell no. 1x 2080Ti FE is enough for my wallet ;)

I've been on the smaller chip SLI 2 year cycle for too long, and wanted to get a single card that would do better than my 1070s in SLI could even theoretically manage. Even if the 2070s had Nvlink and I could get a pair+ a bridge for <£1000 I think this time it's better to go full fat single chip.

Still no update on shipping from Nvidia though. My original dispatch date was the 25th, so I guess i've got at least a week to wait given some people were given an original date of the 20th. They must have taken a lot of orders during the reveal.
 
Safetytrousers said:
Overclockers did say they expected the price of the 20 series would go further up from the initial pricing.
I can't imagine anything other than a tiny market for the AIB cards, when I expect most enthusiasts getting one will get an FE and watercool it.
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I'm not going to WC mine. It's never made much sense to me from a gaming point of view. The extra overclock headroom is limited without voltage mods, the hassle is high and it puts a dampener on reselling (I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand watercooled card personally). Also the block increases the cost of the card. These type of coolers tend not to be too loud anyway. CPUs on the other hand last me 4-6 years so watercooling to maintain a good clock and keep the chip healthy makes more sense.
 
VincentHanna said:
It's a good question, I imagine it can be manipulated.
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Heavily manipulated by robo stock managers on advanced shopping platforms. Tracking number of watchers and number of repeat views by the same person using cookies etc.

Works on price too. Lots watching, non selling .. let's auto drop the price.
 
Gerard said:
What amazes me about this is I've seen a few other sites get stock (of both the zotac and Asus dual card) and yet their price doesn't change from the preorder price. The minute ocuk gets a whiff of stock the price gets cranked on hard.

Some of these cards that are now 1400 were 1150 last week. Apparently they're gold plated special editions or something. :rolleyes:
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They have an active loyal audience because of this forum
 
banbom44 said:
Whoever buys them at that price must be mad how can they justify slapping 200 Quid on once they have them in stock.
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Happens pretty frequently, preorder price is the *low* price then once they're in stock the prices magically rise. It's the same routine with practically every launch, prices are more than expected because of "reasons" then a convenient "shortage" let's them crank them even further.
 
Simon Belmont said:
One of the many reasons why I don't buy from here anymore.
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Sad to say my last purchase from Ocuk was 1 Feb 2017 when I bought 2X 8Gb of Team Group DDR4 for £82.99. Since then have been drifting away from PC gaming due to the inflated prices. That ram is now £132.99! I have now started collecting comics! And I will be looking at XBOX ONE X for black friday or Xmas. May sell my current computer as I actually spend more time on my 'gaming' laptop.
 
HazardO said:
Hell no. 1x 2080Ti FE is enough for my wallet ;)

I've been on the smaller chip SLI 2 year cycle for too long, and wanted to get a single card that would do better than my 1070s in SLI could even theoretically manage. Even if the 2070s had Nvlink and I could get a pair+ a bridge for <£1000 I think this time it's better to go full fat single chip.

Still no update on shipping from Nvidia though. My original dispatch date was the 25th, so I guess i've got at least a week to wait given some people were given an original date of the 20th. They must have taken a lot of orders during the reveal.
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I had a date of the 27th originally and have just had an email saying its now expected 5th-9th October (I cancelled my FE card anyway as the cooler won't work with my GPU only block and nvidia don't allow cooler removal in their warranty so not sure why they are emailing me to say its still coming)
 
I'm a long-time PC gamer playing at 1440p, but I just bought a PS4 Pro due to the great selection of games at the moment and to make use of my 4k TV. This has helped me decide on 3 things:

1) I really don't need any siginficant form of AA given how sharp 4k is, so DLSS at 4k becomes redundant (even though it's nice tech).
2) The reflections and lighting achieved in Spider-Man, which takes place in a city full of glass buildings, are fantastic. I spend an hour just looking at them and realised that Ray Tracing would really not improve anything in a meaningful way. Weather those reflections are 'accurate' is irrelevant when swinging by because you won't notice.
3) The PS4 Pro was outputting a new, gorgeous AAA game at 4k (checkerboard sure but lovely still) and I guess somewhere around 50 FPS (very playable, even though I'm into 144 FPS targeting for my 144hz PC monitor). This is all for £350. How can I justify £1,200+ for just a GPU which might get me 40% more performance?

All in all, as a value proposition, it really makes no sense. 4k gaming will always trump any small improvement Ray Tracing brings and makes DLSS less important, and as such the huge mark-up for these features is madness.

Jensen: "Hey guys, you all looking forward to our new 4k 65 inch gaming monitors?"
Crowd: " Yeah!"
Jensen: "Cool cool. Any questions?
Crowd: "Will the new 2080 Ti be a good choice for powering games at that 4k resolution?
Jensen: "Absolutely! These cards were made for 4k and offer the best performance you can get."
Crowd: "And with the 2080 Ti we can then also turn on Ray Tracing to get those amazing lighting and shadows for the ultimate 4k experience?"
Jensen: "Aaaa... am.... any other questions guys?"
Crowd: "Surely you wouldn't sell technology and features which go against one another!?"
Jensen: "Okay thanks for your time today folks it's been..."
Crowd: "But what was the point of us buying one product we can't fully utilise the features of the other? Answer us Jensen!"
Jensen: "Thanks guys! Bye!" *walks off stage*
Crowd: "Oh you absolute ****!"

*** fully star swearwords ***
 
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SirPsychoZe0 said:
I'm a long-time PC gamer playing at 1440p, but I just bought a PS4 Pro due to the great selection of games at the moment and to make use of my 4k TV. This has helped me decide on 3 things:

1) I really don't need any siginficant form of AA given how sharp 4k is, so DLSS at 4k becomes redundant (even though it's nice tech).
2) The reflections and lighting achieved in Spider-Man, which takes place in a city full of glass buildings, are fantastic. I spend an hour just looking at them and realised that Ray Tracing would really not improve anything in a meaningful way. Weather those reflections are 'accurate' is irrelevant when swinging by because you won't notice.
3) The PS4 Pro was outputting a new, gorgeous AAA game at 4k (checkerboard sure but lovely still) and I guess somewhere around 50 FPS (very playable, even though I'm into 144 FPS targeting for my 144hz PC monitor). This is all for £350. How can I justify £1,200+ for just a GPU which might get me 40% more performance?

All in all, as a value proposition, it really makes no sense. 4k gaming will always trump any small improvement Ray Tracing brings and makes DLSS less important, and as such the huge mark-up for these features is madness.
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Ray tracing WILL improve things in a meaningful way... one day. But not today or in the months ahead. Proper ray tracing in games is way off yet. DLSS has great potential though, and it's exactly the kind of tech that consoles would want. Obviousy their AMD tie-ins don't exactly create an obvious path for this to happen though.

4K is incredibly demanding... consoles use some tricks to achieve it, but on a 4K TV playing at the distance most people do, I agree it's an enjoyable experience providing 60FPS can be hit. HDR works better on consoles too. Personally, I can't stand 30FPS, gives me a headache and is very obviously running at 30.

You don't need a £1200 GPU to play 4K... a 1080Ti can actually do a decent job.
 
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