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Geforce Pascal Review thread

Purgatory said:
The cards with superior coolers will cost more LOL... There is no chance a founders (reference) edition going for £620 is going to make for example a EVGA Classified version cheaper :rolleyes:

This is Nvidia price bumping the range, get real. The only cheaper versions than a Founders (reference) will be the tacky and cheap plastic blower shrouds and they will be about £50-65 cheaper.

In time we will see a price drop on these if AMD bring out a card that has about the same performance and a lot cheapr. The new mid range price is now £600+ this is what Nvidia has done.:mad:
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haszek said:
Exactly this.

Market is greedy they won't sell to you something that is faster (overclocks better, better cooling etc) for cheaper price.
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I disagree, Obviously cards like the Classified will cost more but the basic models shouldn't. For example the reference 980 or 970 wasn't the cheapest way to buy one.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I think the point you seem to be missing is stock vs stock the 1080 is say 20-30% faster, but the 980ti overclocks by 30% and the 1080 overclocks by 10%. So for the cost of £600+ you max overclock vs max overclock, end up about 10-15% faster which in real life isn't going to make a big difference. 4k won't become playable from a 980ti to a 1080, neither will you go from 60 to 90fps at 1440p in a tough game.

When you go from a lets say 5870 to a 7970 you could genuinely say game at 60fps vs 35fps in some games, or game at 1440p vs 1080p with a similar frame rate, it brought around a completely different feel to your gaming. Honestly even 20-30% barely gives you that feel, 50-80% is the big noticeable difference and people both shouldn't have expected that level of performance but they are disappointed as stock sounds impressive but max overclock vs max overclock looks distinctly less impressive than stock vs stock.

To a large degree this is an overclock Pascal and with turbo boost 3.0 that uses more of the available overclock as standard leaving less extra overclocking to gain.


What I haven't seen yet is what kind of power increase is seen from overclocking, not spotted power from overclocking numbers in any reviews yet.

EDIT:- also can someone point out which reviews show the cards throttling with prolonged gaming as again I haven't actually spotted which reviews are showing that as opposed to just forum posts saying it's happening.
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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru.../72619-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-24.html

here overclocking results for you and power increase is about 13 wats more then stock .

in video of overclocking results burn baby burn in the first page :


close to sli 980ti stock perf when clocked not far of it so i would say more then substantial increase with and extra 13 wats
 
Well, going by the above results by Canucks then I'll be going for a non-ref 1080 now and putting it under water when possible :)

Looks to have good gains when tweaked, and getting close to Ti SLi performance is going to be ideal :cool:
 
An Exception said:
Take one out and see if it's smoother.
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I had 2x 980Ti's for a week before putting in the 3rd card. Games ran just as fluently if not a bit better due to the additional 3 redering buffer - less microstutter.

Mei said:
im surprised
do you play games or just run benchmarks?
maybe you do play games but only the ones that have great sli support i duno.....walks away shrugging
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I play games:) I only run benchmarks upon getting new hardware or trying out new drivers. I rarely buy the newest AAA titles at release. I usually wait a while for the developers to sort out bugs etc.
 
The price is the problem. They are continuously increasing the prices. The 1070 price is around the old top end card price. The 980 was £500~ which we said was high, now the 1080 is around the £600 mark.

The 1080ti is going to be £700+ and the Titan will likely clear a grand, or perhaps a lot more for both because of yields.

We really need Vega from AMD to at least compete with the 1080 ti, or nvidia will continue to name their own prices.
 
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Well the dust has settled and reality has kicked in and I will be getting one still. I see they have custom cooled cards now also, so hoping I can get one of those on day 1 and save me watercooling.
 
Single card 4K 60FPS is becoming a reality. Probably not with the 1080 but the ti version should be okay. Good times ahead, now only if IPS tech sorts itself out or OLED makes it's grand appearance :D
 
Good card, daft price.

It's Nvidea :D

Do wish reviewers would stop saying these cards are overkill for 1080 gaming when many people including myself want a solid 144 fps in game with as many bells and whistles as possible.
 
Reference 1080's aren't an upgrade if you own a Ti or TX and you've overclocked them, it's a side step, I'll be waiting to see what the Hybrid 1080's will bring with another power connector, hopefully be a better than 10% O/C and hit 2400mhz, that will make it an upgrade.

@ Gregster, will you be benching against your TX? If so what's your O/C?
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Reference 1080's aren't an upgrade if you own a Ti or TX and you've overclocked them, it's a side step, I'll be waiting to see what the Hybrid 1080's will bring with another power connector, hopefully be a better than 10% O/C and hit 2400mhz, that will make it an upgrade.

@ Gregster, will you be benching against your TX? If so what's your O/C?
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Agreed with the top and whilst it might well be a small upgrade going from a TX/Ti, not really worth it unless you just want a new shiny toy and running VR.

And yes Born, I will be pitching it against my TX at stock V stock (which is a EVGA SC TX) and then max stable OC V max stable OC (which is 1427Mhz and +500 mem on my TX).
 
Found this on folding with 1080:

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from https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=28784&start=30


Looks great potential for folding. :p
 
Kaapstad said:
The point you are missing is you are comparing Big Maxwell to Mid range Pascal.

Compare big Maxwell to big Pascal when it arrives and there will be a massive jump in performance.

The 5870 and 7970 were both the top cards from their families of GPUs, or in other words you were comparing big with big for the AMD cards.
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You and I both know that the 1080 is the GTX980 replacement a mid-range card priced at the high end but he is right to compare this Pascal card with the old Maxwell card. At the end of the day you compare what you can get for your money - £600 GTX980Ti Vs £600 GTX1080. You can’t compare it against a product that hasn’t been released yet so you can only use what’s available.

In terms of pure performance if you compare the 1080 against the GTX980 (non Ti) the 1080 looks a lot more impressive, Nvidia have brought down the old top end performance to the mid range. But that won’t be realised until Nvidia puts the 1080 in the £350-£400 price bracket and that won’t happen until a 1080Ti is close to release.
 
People are strange, so many people saying its worth the price increase...look how much faster it is; It's supposed to be faster, its the new version. The complete lack of 1070 benchmarks is a little worrying.
 
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