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GeForce RTX 3080 12GB cards already on sale in Germany at 1699 EUR

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Well done evga, mind blowing slide!
I wonder if they will do a chart showing the $400 price increase over the 10gb model as they must be using expensive VRAM.
 
I don't understand how this price can be correct. How can it be so much more than the 3080?
Cos people keep buying Nvidia products above their MSRP be that miners or consumers and they want to extort the maximum $$$ the market will bare. You reap what you sow everything from the 1080TI era onwards has led to this point

Can you even imagine the margin Nvidia are making on the sale of these things, and what AIBs are paying?
 
I don't understand how this price can be correct. How can it be so much more than the 3080?

It's simply the highest price possible where they know they will sell. They are no longer gaming cards for common plebs like us. Our hobby hangs on a knife edge, as new games demand the power that only the newer cards can offer...what do we do?

1830 of your fine GBP

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Presumably this is low hashrate, therefore surely at those prices it's insane to buy it for mining.

Which begs the question of how there are so many people out there with £2k to just splurge on a gpu for gaming.
 
Because people keep buying from scalpers, be they individuals or retailers.

Anyone paying scalped prices is enabling scalpers, which essentially is the problem nowadays.

The problem is not scalpers, the problem is that graphics cards have a market value of about 3 or 4 times the price that gamers are prepared to pay.

People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think the market is going to pop back to 2019 levels when we take our masks off.

Mining is the issue. 2019 is gone and it's not coming back.
 
The problem is not scalpers, the problem is that graphics cards have a market value of about 3 or 4 times the price that gamers are prepared to pay.

People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think the market is going to pop back to 2019 levels when we take our masks off.

Mining is the issue. 2019 is gone and it's not coming back.

Bingo, this guy gets it.
 
Ethereum POS will go a long way helping the situation though as miner demand for new cards will dry up while I'm sure more than a few will also be looking to offload some of their hoard.
 
The problem is not scalpers, the problem is that graphics cards have a market value of about 3 or 4 times the price that gamers are prepared to pay.

People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think the market is going to pop back to 2019 levels when we take our masks off.

Mining is the issue. 2019 is gone and it's not coming back.

The problem is not just miners..
 
The problem is not scalpers, the problem is that graphics cards have a market value of about 3 or 4 times the price that gamers are prepared to pay.

People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think the market is going to pop back to 2019 levels when we take our masks off.

Mining is the issue. 2019 is gone and it's not coming back.

I've been in few mining discord channels and seen so many bedroom / garage miners with 5+ GPU's posting up setups that's not even including the bigger ones , at some point these will hit the used market when ETH POS hits
 
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