*** General TVs Talk Thread ***

Also, funny anecdote, for ppl pining their hopes on microleds:

https://twitter.com/BigJohnnyArcher/status/1214024465203519493/photo/1

John Archer: "Samsung’s 8K 292-inch Micro LED ‘Wall’ is like nothing I’ve seen before. Genuinely jaw-dropping. I’ve ordered two for my castle, obviously. #CES2020"

CLK55: "Hi John. We just got one installed at work. $200,000+ and it’s got lots of dead pixels and visible seams. Impressive picture but for that kind of money I think Samsung could’ve done better."
"I assume it’s the 292”? It takes up a full wall in our room. They installed a venting system at the base to help with cooling. Not sure what Samsung will do about it. We’ve got little bits of Post-It notes on the screen to mark the dead pixels!"

MicroLED is just around the corner! Finally the perfect TV!

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jpaul said:
I had watched vincent from 10May, which would really convince me that if i'm watching in the dark, most zoned tv's wouldn't cut it ,
either you see fewer stars on the qled or blooming on the sony - choose your poison
but I suppose I haven't re-watched the martian/gravity, and not seen Life of Pi.
Samsung QLED vs Sony 4K LED TV Comparison (Upscaling, HDR, Game Mode)
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For in the HDR dark movie watching OLED really is a no brainer, but for me I run into blooming issues so rarely it just makes no difference to think about (XF90) so I'd always take Sony over Samsung, because the other flaws would bother me all of the time. In fact the last time I ran into actually noticeable HDR blooming was Black Panther >1 year ago when I was just demo'ing a new sound setup, but nothing since. I think when shopping for a new TV people really don't think enough about the content they actually watch & what would suit their needs best. Sorta happens the same with GPUs, people forget to think about the games they actually play and how those run and rather evaluate it on the overall performance from a large selection of random games a reviewer might favour, which seems stupid to me.
 
johnyccc said:
Hi, I'm looking to buy a new set but am unsure which to go for.

It needs to be 32" (or slightly smaller) and OK for gaming. I have a concern regarding SD content - I still watch a lot of lower resolution content and worry by how terrible it often looks. Should I prioritize a HDR set because of this consideration or instead look for specific upscaling options? Is there likely to be much of a difference? If I were to go with a HDR set, how much would I be missing at 32"?

I'm currently looking at the sony kdl32we613bu. Does anyone have any experience with it?
Thanks!
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At 32" you're not really gonna have those options. The best chipsets (and therefore upscaling) & proper HDR are reserved for 55" & up generally. 32" TVs are just not good quality for the most part & info is gonna be hard to come by (referring to objective data, not "customer impressions"). Might be worth thinking about 32" monitors too if that's an option.
 
matthewwhitton said:
Sony XH90 vs Samsung Q70R
Both the 75 inch version. Any thoughts?
We watch plenty of football and it's used for gaming and movies as well, not much sd material watched.
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XH90 will be better in every way, especially for sports Sony's motion handling is king & for gaming you get HDMI 2.1 and a non-gimped picture in game mode.
 
Digital X said:
Taking delivery of the Sony XH95 on the 11th, what would be the best way to calibrate it? Do I get an app, watch a video etc? My current TV Hisense A6250's HDR just looks brighter and washed out tbh.
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Here's my recommendations for a closer to reference settings:

SDR
- Brightness at 9 (= 200 nits) at night, or 15-20 during the day (= 300ish nits)
- Contrast at 90
- Colour 50
- Light Sensor OFF
- Gamma -2
- Black level 50
- Black adjust OFF
- Adv Contrast Enhancer OFF
- Auto local dimming High
- X-tended Dynamic Range OFF
- Hue 0
- Colour Temperature Expert 1
- Live colour OFF
- Sharpness 50
- Reality Creation Off
- Smooth Gradation Low
- Motionflow OFF
- Film mode OFF
- Video Options stuff you just leave on AUTO

For HDR the only difference is you need Brightness at MAX & X-tended Dynamic Range to High.

In order to properly calibrate the display you'd need professional equipment, which would cost quite a bit, and frankly it's not necessary because the out-of-the-box calibration is quite good already on the XH95.
 
jpaul said:
I'd not considered before, but their reviews don't seem to discuss performance on lower bitrtae stuff where the newer cx processor would come into play,
which seems a big omission, versus hdtvtest ... maybe the rtings video covers it.

manufacturing cost of cx and bx can't be much different , other than the processor , cx, for example, doesn't have any addtional heat-sink ?
so you've got to wonder too whether, bx reducing the brightness is reducing the risk of burn in, so they will have fewer returns, so if a cx costs £300 more than a bx,
they're expecting, say 1 in 5 cx to have issues, and, need replacing, so have to mitigate that.
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Yes, stuff like how the TV handles low bitrate content, or how the picture quality is in game mode (because some TVs have worse PQ then), etc are all things that aren't generally tested by reviewers, and never by RTINGS. That's why it, sadly, comes down to combing forums for user reviews for things you're aware of.

It's certainly strange (but not unusual for LG, though perhaps not to this degree) to gimp the B model this much, I don't know why that might be. Perhaps they really are starting to triage panel quality more & that makes a difference. Or perhaps it is as you say and they figure they'd rather just enjoy some extra profit from lower return rate (since OLED's #1 enemy is heat) if they keep the brightness low.

Could be that they're just trying to squeeze every penny out of these oleds while they can. They certainly don't have more than 2-3 years left of milking them (then they're ******).
 
Boy does that Sony look incredible! Wish I could justify it but I'm greedy and waiting for even more. Samsung on the other hand... utter garbage! And that's being polite about it.

 
bakes0310 said:
Anyone have the samsung q90 55" thinking of pairing it with a xbox series x or a ps5, dont really want an oled screen as i tend to keep my tvs for 5+ years. Seems the best tv if you plan on gaming on it and connecting your computer to it.
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Excellent choice depending on the price. If it's nicely discounted then go for it, but if it's not I'd say wait for March when we get new models.
 
Yes that caught my attention also, and thank the Lord finally a decent deal in Europe! I've been very jealous of all the TCL sets in the US so it's nice to see something that's meant for our little corner of the earth too.
I remain skeptical though, simply because Philips TVs have had a poor reputation in the recent years, so we'll see if they mess this up somehow.
 
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