Gibbo is getting an R600!!

Sir Random · 11 Apr 2007 at 13:32

Gibbo said:
Hi there

I am amazed that Farcry seems to be running so damn quick.

1920x1200, everything maxed. Full AF and FSAA yet its hovering around 100fps.

Is this right, are you guys seeing the same, I just find it hard to believe that enabling AF and FSAA has hardly no performance hit and the game is pumping out over 100fps.

I play Far Cry at 1920x1200, 16xQAA, 16xAF, everything max/ultra and I get 60~80 fps outdoors, and 140+ indoors (GTX at stock). That game is 3 years old now, so you really need to use STALKER, Gothic 3, or some other shader heavy game to test these cards.

pegasus1 · 11 Apr 2007 at 13:48

Gibbo said:
Hi there

I am amazed that Farcry seems to be running so damn quick.

1920x1200, everything maxed. Full AF and FSAA yet its hovering around 100fps.

Is this right, are you guys seeing the same, I just find it hard to believe that enabling AF and FSAA has hardly no performance hit and the game is pumping out over 100fps.

Give a copy away with every 8800gtx.

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 13:57

Gibbo,

You need to get Oblivion on the R600 rig. Its one of the few games complex enough to slap the 8800 around! Aren't ATi going to send you a game to test it with? If I was selling a GFX card, then I'd send each reviewer a game that I new worked flawlessly on my card and really showed it off. Maybe give ATi a ring, ask if they can put Oblivion/FEAR/CoH/STALKER in the post?

Antx777 · 11 Apr 2007 at 14:08

Gibbo said:
Hi there

I am amazed that Farcry seems to be running so damn quick.

1920x1200, everything maxed. Full AF and FSAA yet its hovering around 100fps.

Is this right, are you guys seeing the same, I just find it hard to believe that enabling AF and FSAA has hardly no performance hit and the game is pumping out over 100fps.

Not got Farcry with me ATM, but don't you set the AF/AA BEFORE you start the game (configure etc)?, as i once set full aa/af, but didn't take effect in the game, it reads as "low/medium/high" etc. Sometimes the AA are "greyed-out" in the game...

pegasus1 · 11 Apr 2007 at 14:09

melbourne720 said:
If I was selling a GFX card, then I'd send each reviewer a game that I new worked flawlessly on my card

Thats the game not to test it on then

Gibbo · 11 Apr 2007 at 14:35

Hi there

OK sorted it, the NVIDIA drivers were preventing AA/AF been enabled even though it was set set to allow application on AUTO.

I've set the drivers to manual but set to let application decide and everything else on quality.

Now Farcry, DOOM3 are bringing the FPS quite down a lot on the test I have.

easyrider · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:04

Gibbo just buy oblivion!

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:06

pegasus1 said:
Thats the game not to test it on then

Good point!

Still, could compare with the old card though!

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:07

easyrider said:
Gibbo just buy oblivion!

2nd'd - I'm sure it will run Llamatron fast as well, we want to bring it to its knees!

Gibbo · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:16

Hi there

OK some results from the GTX under XP:-

DOOM3 - 1600x1200, Ultra details and 8x filtering = 72fps
Farcry 1.4v with benchmark util (v1.8) - 1920x1200, Max details with 4x AA and 4x AF = 90fps
Farcry 1.4v with benchmark util (v1.8) - 1920x1200, Max details with 8x AA and 8x AF = 51fps

In the NVIDIA drivers everything is set to maximum or application controlled and the filter mode is set too super sampling which I believe is better quality but hits performance.

For Farcry I am using a benchmark programme which lets you select several time demos, I am using a demo called 3Dlabs research as it seems to be rather demanding compared to the other maps as can be seen from the results.

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:25

Looking good Mr Gibson. Do need something released in the last 12/24 months to really test it though

Or Oblivion :cool:

Do we think that anything less than a 20% boost, given the time the 8800 GTX has already been out, will be a failure from ATi?

Conversely will anything more 40% boost be considered an utter trouncing of NVidia? (don't want to be accused of Fanboism here

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Dravic · 11 Apr 2007 at 15:31

melbourne720 said:
Looking good Mr Gibson. Do need something released in the last 12/24 months to really test it though Or Oblivion

Do we think that anything less than a 20% boost, given the time the 8800 GTX has already been out, will be a failure from ATi?

Conversely will anything more 40% boost be considered an utter trouncing of NVidia? (don't want to be accused of Fanboism here )

I guess that depends what the 8800 Ultra's performance is.

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:20

Dravic said:
I guess that depends what the 8800 Ultra's performance is.

When Gibbo has an 8800 Ultra being delivered to him, we'll worry about it then

Jakus · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:32

Gibbo said:
Hi there

OK some results from the GTX under XP:-

DOOM3 - 1600x1200, Ultra details and 8x filtering = 72fps
Farcry 1.4v with benchmark util (v1.8) - 1920x1200, Max details with 4x AA and 4x AF = 90fps
Farcry 1.4v with benchmark util (v1.8) - 1920x1200, Max details with 8x AA and 8x AF = 51fps

In the NVIDIA drivers everything is set to maximum or application controlled and the filter mode is set too super sampling which I believe is better quality but hits performance.

For Farcry I am using a benchmark programme which lets you select several time demos, I am using a demo called 3Dlabs research as it seems to be rather demanding compared to the other maps as can be seen from the results.

Just ran the same farcry test @ 1920x1200 "3Dnews research" map (was that the same?) at 8AF 8AA and got double Your score ! 101.96 FPS, on a X1950XTX crossfire System, What are we looking to prove here ?

IceShock · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:35

the ati's have allways been best at keepign performance wilst antialising. but the nvidias alising has more settings and can look twice as good

LoadsaMoney · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:36

JAKUS said:
Just ran the same farcry test @ 1920x1200 "3Dnews research" map (was that the same?) at 8AF 8AA and got double Your score ! 101.96 FPS, on a X1950XTX crossfire System, What are we looking to prove here ?

Nothing

Hes just getting the GTX benched for when his R600 arrives tomorrow (hopefully), so we get an idea how it performs.

Gibbo · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:48

LoadsaMoney said:
Nothing

Hes just getting the GTX benched for when his R600 arrives tomorrow (hopefully), so we get an idea how it performs.

Hi there

So are my results way down for a GTX then?

It seems there are a lot of different settings available that can effect the results.

If 8x AF and 8x AA on an NV card the same as 8x AF and 8x AA on an ATI card?

On the ATI card I shall do the same as the NVIDIA one and set all settings to max quality or application controlled where applicable.

I did notice however on the Farcry benchmark when I set 16x AF and 8x AA the results go upto 130fps, so I am assuming it does not like those settings and is just defaulting them the AA and AF to off or lowest hence the silly high result.

P.S. In all honesty I am not good with the game benchmarking, far too many settings and I am not patient enough for it all. Just want a simple click and go test like 3D Mark, but the Fear and DOOM3 built in benchmarks are nice and easy.

Z3R0-CooL · 11 Apr 2007 at 16:48

i doubt that in a same setup the R600 will be much faster than the 8800GTX..

i predict no more than 500 3dmark06 difference.

melbourne720 · 11 Apr 2007 at 17:02

Out of a choice between FEAR, Doom 3 and Far Cry, I think FEAR would be the best "Wash and Go" benchmark

Gibbo · 11 Apr 2007 at 17:04

melbourne720 said:
Out of a choice between FEAR, Doom 3 and Far Cry, I think FEAR would be the best "Wash and Go" benchmark

Hi there

Well ran Farcry with just 1x AF and No AA which is the lowest the benchmark programme allows. Same 1920x1200 resolution and maximum details gives a result of 138fps. That sound about right?
So 4x AF and 4x AA gets 90fps
And 8x AF and 8x AA gets 51fps

Here is the details from one of the benchmark runs:-

System Information
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP
System memory: 2.0 GB
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz
CPU speed: 3020 MHz
Sound system: SB X-Fi Audio [BF00]
VGA Information
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Memory: 768.0 MB
Current GPU speed: 600 MHz
Current memory speed: 900 MHz
Driver version: 6.14.0010.9794 (English)

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Resolution: 1920 × 1200 (Custom)
Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Research, demo: 3dnews001.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: 8×
Anisotropic filtering: 8×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

Score = 50.84 FPS (Run 1)
Score = 51.07 FPS (Run 2)
Average score = 50.95 FPS