God & Science Proved!

I love it when people think they're being clever.

ITT: students

I'm no student dude, I am just very interesting in the law of physics, whats fact and whats not.

When people claim that mavity is just a theory, when really it's fundemental to the universe, "IF" there was a god in reality it doesn't control anything, in the Universe perspectives we are just a spec of dust for a small amount of time.

Eventually as billions of years pass suns will burn and die out and eventually we will have a "heat death" , not even god can stop that.
 
You mean Newton's law of universal gravitation? It is a theory devised by Newton funnily enough.

I wasn't even referring to you anyway as it happens.
 
You mean Newton's law of universal gravitation? It is a theory devised by Newton funnily enough.

I wasn't even referring to you anyway as it happens.
Apologies :D

Yes and 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

As More Suns burn off energy = Higher rate of entropy

Entropy = is energy that can not be re-used, as the entropy rises it turns order into chaos, basically meaning that suns cannot be remade as we go foward in time, and eventually stars will start to dissapear.
 
Obviously you cant read as i stated i am 47 and have had a life of reading other views, history, science etc. I choose to believe what i want to believe just like you do. Now go put the kettle on and relax!

You have stated that nothing anyone says could change your views. That is basically the definition of being closed-minded.

Anyway, this thread insults me because of the complete lack of scientific understanding being shown by most posters. My favourite was:

Now since we know the universe is constantly expanding at the moment and has been since the start of time. The only logical explanation is that the space in between atoms are getting further apart

Please never try and explain anything scientific to anyone.
 
Although I am an athiest (and happy with my stance) I've always wondered why religious people go through such mental contortions to accomodate their vision of God in relation the science, esp. physics. To me the single greatest point that might suggest the existence of some "Higher Force" is the fact that we have scientific laws. For example, in electromagnetics opposites attract. Why? Examples of such universal laws are everywhere and, as yet, we cannot explain them. Surely, that is where the scope is for a deity. Not in such concepts as everything in universe must follow the laws of thermodynamics, except God because "He's" special.
 
Hallucinogenic plants/substances have been around for ever. What's to say some ancient villages/cultures spent their days getting cracked off their nut and happend to write a few books about it?

Or, some clever fellows realised people can be controlled by fear.
 
When people claim that mavity is just a theory, when really it's fundemental to the universe, "IF" there was a god in reality it doesn't control anything, in the Universe perspectives we are just a spec of dust for a small amount of time.

mavity is 'just' a theory .... a Scientific one invented by Newton with plenty of supportive methods and conclusive results to validate the hypothesis of mavity into a Scientific Theory :D

Kind of like Evolution!
 
A scientific theory also tends to always have predictive value, to actually be of use to predict the outcome of another event, or the expect results of a test etc.

Religious theory's have no predictive value, neither do they advance our understanding of how the world works.
 
It really confuses me that people ask you to disprove the bible, as if the existence of the bible is proof enough that it is true.

How is an old book proof of existence of a higher being?

Religion was created for control.

The bible was written by man, not god.


Evolution is a theory that is based off actual scientific evidence and research, the bible is a book.

I don't completely discount the possibility of a higher being, I mean, the big bang came from nothing? Who created the nothing? Who lit the fuse that started it all?



But the whole story of the bible, cmon, seriously? Adam and Eve? Earth created in 7 days?

Right.....
 
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As the Universe is expanding, and this expansion is accelerating. Will it eventually reach the speed of light?


light is based on the distant light takes to travel from A > B so really things are already at the speed of light but we can't see them yet.

Have a look at pulsars ;)

there are things that can go faster than the speed of light and bend space, but it's out of my understanding.
 
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Glaucus what did you make of through the wormhole season 1,(is there a creator),gave some very good examples and not siding to any particular piece which i thought was very good,got the full season 2 now to watch:)

It will be very interesting to see what the Large Hadron Collider(LHC) comes up with once they get through the masses of data,i think this will be a turning point whether they do get data of any existence of the Higgs boson particle,if they do,i'mm sure that opens the door for a time machine(yes you may laugh).

The Big Bang is the best theory we have at present,Very interesting in what may change in this theory with the LHC.

A Universe from nothing by Lawrence M.Krauss is very good up to now(half way through it)

What new facts has religion gave us,absolute nothing.

Davepen is spot on saying Religion was created for control.

Take for example the The Shroud of Turin,a very good fake,even if the carbon dating is a few hundred years wrong it's still way of the mark for when it was actually made.
 

The thing that most people dont understand is that theory =/= scientific theory.

Evolution and mavity are both 'Scientific Theories'.

Calling Evolution 'just a theory', means that mavity is also 'just a theory' (if 'just a theory' = 'scientific theory').

The amount of craziness that stating 'mavity is just a theory' in this sense creates in both theists and atheists who dont understand the perspective of the statement is just incredibly entertaining to watch.

Also eye and hair colour variations being caused by genes? guess what, thats 'only a theory' too :D
 
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So why does god not do it now,another thing 200 billion stars in each galaxy,why so probable can only 20 billion harvest life,a lot of wasted stars doing nothing.

Because God is a little **** taker. It must be very boring for him just floating around on a cloud all day answering people's prayers, so it's no wonder he, for example, throws a few earthquakes our way... he's just entertaining himself!
 
A scientist claims he can prove God exists and the theory of evolution is wrong. He wrote a book called the attempted murder of God.
 
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