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Going back to AMD

Cob said:
I fail to see the point behind this thread tbh.

I assume you were looking for a slap on the back and a few "Well dones" for going for AMD, but when people point out that it may not be the best decision (in their opinion) you decide that you don't care (or 'GAF') what people think.

Oddness.
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No, read the OP

I did ask what AMD is comparable to what Intel so I will have an idea of what to expect.

I never did get that answer, but Rather than telling me anythign truly constructive , instead, I got slated for considering going to AMD.

I do GAF, but the negativity sometimes drags me down.
 
FatRakoon said:
What a perfectly neutral answer.

Thank you.

Oh, and just for you to know, I have placed my order for the 9950 Black Edition, and coupled it with a Gigabyte DS3 Mobo ( I only opted for DS3 cos I love the DS3 775 Mobos, Im thinking thatt his will be as reliable as my DS3, S3, DS4 are )

I will sell off perhaps my E2180 setup to recoup the costs.
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I don't know if that mobo is upto the job really.

I would wait & get a mobo with a 750SB on it as the mobos out now with 600SB can barely run a Quad.
 
It's not that they can't run, it's just that the SB600 is hideously rubbish. There are plenty of boards out that have completely inadequate mosfet cooling and rubbish power management also.
I think the only boards I'd buy at the moment would be the Asus M3A32-MVP or the DFI M2R (NOT the M2R S though). I'd refuse to pay anything like rrp though, not with that flaky, ancient POS SB strapped on.

Edit: BTW, FatRakoon, you're really gonna have to get some sort of cooling on that DS3's Mosfets with that CPU, certainly wouldn't be overclocking it on that board also. You'd be better cancelling that board and buying something a little better. I'm not even sure the DS3 is rated to take the higher wattage Phenoms.
 
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Final8y said:
I don't know if that mobo is upto the job really.

I would wait & get a mobo with a 750SB on it as the mobos out now with 600SB can barely run a Quad.
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DOH!
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Seriously? Man, its just bloody typical isnt it?

Not to worry, like I said, at 50 notes, its got to be worth a shot...

What would you suggest then? holding out? I know that if I dont open it, I can get a full refund ( Distance selling act ) and so I might consider that, but I know me... Impatient as I am, Ill end of opening it up.

Ill do some homework I think... Thanks for the Heads up!
 
Dont open it & send it back as you will get the most out of that AMD with a 750SB mobo.
I feel your pain a lot of us are holding out for the new mobos to come out & the wait is nearly over.
 
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Right, now you are all getting on my t1tz
So, I finaly got my first AM2 PC and I should not use it???

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Seriously then... So, what do you recon I should look out for? Just the 750SB, or... ?
 
It doesn't matter that the DS3 doesn't have SB750, it matters that it will not officially support the 9950 and there is a higher probability of it failing due to general shoddiness.
You need to look for boards that support 145w? (maybe not the correct number) CPU's.
 
Right, now you are all getting on my t1tz
So, I finaly got my first AM2 PC and I should not use it???

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Seriously then... So, what do you recon I should look out for? Just the 750SB, or... ?
 
FatRakoon said:
Right, now you are all getting on my t1tz
So, I finaly got my first AM2 PC and I should not use it???

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Seriously then... So, what do you recon I should look out for? Just the 750SB, or... ?
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GA-MA74GM-S2H - this one seems alright to me...I don't know why everyone pans ATI southbridges, I've used one of the oldest without any problems.:confused:
 
The USB speed is crazily slow and all the SB600 boards seem to have minor niggles.
The SB750 boards appear to offer better clocks at lower voltages even on the B2 steppings.

Rather than waiting an unknown amount of time for SB750 if you wanted it now, just get a board that supports the 9950.
 
The only board that seems not to be affected by the SB600 crappiness is the MSI K9A2 plat. all phenoms i have seen with board overclcok at least 300MHZ.

My 9950 with a DFI 790FX M2R wouldnt overclock a KHz i kid you not. Also forget Ocing with 64bit OS, impossible.
 
The MSI Platinum board was the one which AMD used to demo the Phenom/Spider platform wasn't it?
Can't be a bad thing and given it's price, worth a punt.
 
if i had to buy an amd board , 9950 compatible and with overclocking in mind i would 100% get the MSI. Trust me i spent 2 months with the dfi which is considered a top make and MSI's just blew the socks of my DFI in terms of both highest Mhz achieved and HTT. ALso it is cheaper and has 4 PCI_E slots.

the greeks who did the 9950 review and hold a WR (9950@3500mhz) had also a MSI
 
Yeah, credit where credit is due, I have to say that MSI have been good to me too!

My first 64Bit affair ( Which I still have ) is the MSI Neo2 Platinum with a Winchester 3200 ( Which I dont have ) and that board is currently running an x2-4800 and 6800GT with 4x512MB Corsair XMS 4400 Platinum and just does not crash, and it has been to 300FSB in the past ( Stock now however )

I was so happy with that board that the next setup I had after that was the MSI Neo4-F ( Also still have although only god knows whats in that right now? ) and previous to that I have a... Erm, somethign Socket A Delta-L I think? - I had 2 of those, the earlier one was a brilliant clocker, the newer one was not so good, but they were supposed to be the very same board.. K7N2, thats it! - the red one was good, the black one was not.

Anyway, Im digressing.

I have decided that I will agree that my choice of board was a hasty one... Driven purely on the DS3 in its name.

Im happy to hold out for a short while, its not like Im desperate or anything... Well I am, but lets stick to PCs for now yeah?. LOL
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
Also forget Ocing with 64bit OS, impossible.
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Total rubbish
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3159282&postcount=34
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183025

64bit does put more load on the CPU so may lose 50Mhz or so to running 32bit overclocked which is just hiding the issue of being unstable & putting an OS on that is lighter weight.
But that would be like saying don't run Prime95 or any software that will put heavy load on an unstable overclocked CPU because it is just that, its unstable.

You don't see stock CPU's with 3.0Ghz 32bit 2.8Ghz 64Bit on the specs because stable is stable no matter the load, 100% is 100% & it should not crash because of load no matter what.

The same goes for overclocking the GPU to far where some games will not crash at a certain overclock but games like GRID & GOW will crash the overclocked GPU in no time, wait just dont run those games that put more load on the GPU so i can preserve my unstable GPU overclock...not
 
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