I fail to see how thats harmed me.
Good Bye Freedom, Hello Police State Britain.
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Don't forget the obscenity laws. In which people have been taken to court for publishing fiction.
Soldato
Roll on qualifying in my trade and ******* off abroad!
Soldato
BBC News said:
So, to summarize, council workers can go through your phone records because they THINK your dog might have crapped on a pavement. Mmm... Snooping...
How will I sleep at night
People like you, who embrace giving up all there rights and privacy should be sterilised.
People complain about anything being Orwellian when they have no idea what it actually means.
It's the way its applied that makes it bad.
Using CCTV to catch muggers is not the same as using CCTV to see who is badmouthing Gordon Brown so they can be tortured. Same with Anti-Terror legislation.
It's the way its applied that makes it bad.
Using CCTV to catch muggers is not the same as using CCTV to see who is badmouthing Gordon Brown so they can be tortured. Same with Anti-Terror legislation.
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Soldato
Well, until armed police batter down your door and shoot you? Or until you discover the CCTV camera the council put up on the lamppost outside your house has been recording you playing with yourself and now the council has lost the tape on a bus?How will I sleep at night
Bit harsh, to be fair.
Soldato
I see where you're coming from, but unfortunately our government likes legislation that's REAAAAAAALLY broad and supports dragnet-type measures that effect everyone. So it gets abused regularly, like the RIP Act for example. Legislation designed for what is supposed to be a clearly defined reason (fighting terrorism) is often abused for something else (fighting dog fouling).
EDIT: Sorry, I'm not intentionally double posting, can I just copy the contents of the second post into the first and delete the second?
Soldato
While slightly off topic, did anyone agree with the extension of holding without charge to 42 days?
Theres no need to get personal or pathetic about it.
Ironically, more surveillance powers could have proven his innocence and saved his life. Less chance of mistaken identity then.
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Hmm the goverment is not out to get you, your tax yes but you? No they just don't care.
NI has rubbed Westminsters nose in civil disobedience more time than I care to go into. The problem with Westminster is that the English just sit there and do nothing. If the English did just once what NI has done in the form of civil disobedience, Westminster would be very careful in its dealing with its electorate. It would be rather interesting to see who in goverment didn't make a run to the nearest airport.
As for East Germany that was Stalin's work, he made Hitler look like a boy scout.
I knew what you ment I was just pointing out that you are all a long way from living in a police state. Even then if you were its not what people would have you believe it is.
No, but the police use that law all the time. 2 local grannys where arrested and held for 7 days without charge and without reason because they "strayed" too close to a military base.
Maybe because the government and several establishments have proved time and time again they cannot be trusted to look after data and they are never held accountable for breaching security, some of the muppets who have left databases and media in public places I wouldnt trust with a piggy bank full of pennies, they are a shambolic disgrace
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And if requested by the Government (or appropriate agent of them) you must hand over the encryption key or face punitive measures including incarceration as given by the RIPA. Encryption in this instance is only really worthwhile if the information it protects is worth more to you than the jail time is (up to a maximum of two years I believe).
I still don't seem to have noticed anyone giving a plausible reason as to how this will aid our national security or even my individual security? [TW]Fox probably came closest to attempting a reason and he was just taking the mickey.
//edit and "...if you've got nothing to hide..." doesn't even approach the standard required for an argument, if you want to take away my civil liberties then I expect something a lot more solid than some form of double negative approach.
Two words, plausible deniability.
And I was referring to communications, communications between two devices use a public key system which the ripa act is not applicable to as the user does not know the encryption key and it is only used for one session.