Google Pixel and Pixel XL
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Google really need to sort out their product lines because it is a mess out there. The Nexus tablets might as well not exist, the dropping of the branding altogether isn't really confidence inspiring. The Pixel C is a great product and yet no one knows about it, same goes for the Chromebooks that are now being phased out.
Seems changes are happening but not really clear what just yet. I read this article as saying that they are dropping the Nexus branding, probably in favour of Google branding. Anyone have a different view?
http://www.androidcentral.com/end-nexus-2016-google-phones-forge-new-path
http://www.androidcentral.com/end-nexus-2016-google-phones-forge-new-path
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Good move
other than techies, nobody knows what a Nexus is. They think it's a brand like Samsung. Google has brand presence, so using that name makes sense.
Take the first Nexus
What phone have you got?
A Nexus
who makes that?
Samsung
Oh I've got a Samsung
Yeah well it's not like yours, it's not really a samsung, it's Google
I thought you said Nexus
Yeah it's a Nexus, but made by Samsung, but it's running Android software just like your phone but not quite the same as it's stock Android from Google, not Samsung
WUT! lolz
other than techies, nobody knows what a Nexus is. They think it's a brand like Samsung. Google has brand presence, so using that name makes sense.
Take the first Nexus
What phone have you got?
A Nexus
who makes that?
Samsung
Oh I've got a Samsung
Yeah well it's not like yours, it's not really a samsung, it's Google
I thought you said Nexus
Yeah it's a Nexus, but made by Samsung, but it's running Android software just like your phone but not quite the same as it's stock Android from Google, not Samsung
WUT! lolz
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Agree. Probably as significant is the idea that Google is taking baby steps in making Android proprietary, like iOS and Windows.
Google has been gradually migrating functionality from AOSP (open source) into Google Mobile Services (proprietary) because Google can prevent fragmentation in GMS as well as distribute updates directly to users. Result: a better user experience. Expect by next year that Android "0" will be even more proprietary.
I believe developers will find it easier to develop apps for a proprietary Google OS.
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Google has been gradually migrating functionality from AOSP (open source) into Google Mobile Services (proprietary) because Google can prevent fragmentation in GMS as well as distribute updates directly to users. Result: a better user experience. Expect by next year that Android "0" will be even more proprietary.
I believe developers will find it easier to develop apps for a proprietary Google OS.
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It's time for Google to take back control of Android and I think a Google phone is what is needed to start this off.
Google Phone actually has the ability to take on the iPhone, I think.
Google Phone actually has the ability to take on the iPhone, I think.
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I'm having a bad day with regards my Samsung S7 Edge, so I feel like I have to take issue with this comment.
The S7 is totally overrated. The battery life is not as good as they say, and I'm back to using a charger at work and a charger in the house, when my old Z3 easily lasted all day. Even my now three(ish) year old HTC lasts just as long.
Full of crap software and bugs.
Quality control issues galore.
Samsung remains the least reliable phone I've ever owned; having owned an S1, S2, S3 and Note 2, I have a fair amount of experience with them. Even my faulty OPO was less infuriating on account of it being less than half the price.
So no, just NO to a Samsung Nexus (in fact, I bought a Galaxy Nexus, and guess what, it didn't ****** work properly, just like all Samsungs I've owned).
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There were rumours months ago about a "Google" designed and built phone alongside the 2 HTC Nexus devices. I wonder if they've decided to merge the projects somewhat.
The early release of Nougat does suggest there's some truth in them developing a version of Nougat specific to the Google phone.
The early release of Nougat does suggest there's some truth in them developing a version of Nougat specific to the Google phone.
Just to balance it out, myself and my family have had loads of Samsung phones over the years and none of them have had hardware problems.
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Opposite for me from the above, S7 Edge is by far the best "smart phone" I have ever owned. Superb phone. Going to take a lot to beat it for me.
I don't understand why there isn't just a Google phone either
Surely.someone like huwaei or xiaomi would do a great job building it without being fussy about wanting their name all over it because the handset sales are making the money
In the past the nexus handsets where very reasonably priced to try and get sales but when stuff like the s7 costs more than apples offering Google don't even need to be as competitive on that front
Surely.someone like huwaei or xiaomi would do a great job building it without being fussy about wanting their name all over it because the handset sales are making the money
In the past the nexus handsets where very reasonably priced to try and get sales but when stuff like the s7 costs more than apples offering Google don't even need to be as competitive on that front
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Google need a good brand which I think they will have and then advertise the hell out of it. Hire Apple PR I don't care get it out there. Google have the ability.
That option has always been available to Google to do but there has been the fine line which they have not crossed. Historically the Nexus programme was about showing the ecosystem what was possible to build and incorporate in a reference phone rather than directly competing with the OEMs. But with fragmentation being an issue and the inability to get time OS updates out to users, will Google finally take a more aggressive stance on the matter? I believe that by moving more of the updates and features to the Google Mobile platform (proprietary) and away from the Android open source platform, Google can achieve its aims, provided it can convince the developers to hop on board.
But the other question remains the attack by the EU Competition Authority against Google who, with their dominant Android market share (90% plus in some EU countries) and how the EU would regard such a move towards a more proprietary arrangement.
Walking on eggshells to please all.
But the other question remains the attack by the EU Competition Authority against Google who, with their dominant Android market share (90% plus in some EU countries) and how the EU would regard such a move towards a more proprietary arrangement.
Walking on eggshells to please all.
I think I'm going to get one of these when they are released. My old Nexus 4 is still running well but I need the newest version of Android because I will be writing an Android app and I need to test it out on the latest version. The Nexus phones are the only ones I feel comfortable with because they are the only ones that get the latest version of Android on them as soon as it is released.
Hopefully I'll have the money saved up to get one as soon as they are launched.
Is there any more information available yet as to when they are going to be released? I didn't have time to read the whole thread but I get the impression that it will be sometime in September?
Hopefully I'll have the money saved up to get one as soon as they are launched.
Is there any more information available yet as to when they are going to be released? I didn't have time to read the whole thread but I get the impression that it will be sometime in September?
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Still nothing solid yet either Sep or Oct.
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Their new phones will be the Pixel and the Pixel XL
Not sure what to think of the new names but farewell to the Nexus :/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...phones-will-be-called-the-pixel-and-pixel-xl/
Not sure what to think of the new names but farewell to the Nexus :/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...phones-will-be-called-the-pixel-and-pixel-xl/
As Kainz cites, big hardware announcement by Alphabet/Google on 4 October including release of the two "Google made" phones, the Pixel and Pixel XL (name of top of the line Google Chromebook). Rick Osterleh (ex Motorola which Google owned before selling to Lenovo) is behind the new hardware strategy which will include Pixel phones (5 inch and 5.5 inch displays), a 4K Chromecast, Google Home and Daydream VR Viewer.
So the names Sailfish and Marlin associated with the forthcoming "HTC-made" Nexus devices will be rebranded as the Google made Pixels: the "first phones built by Google".
So the names Sailfish and Marlin associated with the forthcoming "HTC-made" Nexus devices will be rebranded as the Google made Pixels: the "first phones built by Google".
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Just called them Google Phone FFS
and surely it should be made by Google (actually HTC)
and surely it should be made by Google (actually HTC)
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I hope they have the coloured light bar at the bottom like other Pixel devices!
This is a good move. Google having full control of the hardware.
This is a good move. Google having full control of the hardware.