GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding

SK07 · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:28

Err, two or so pints (more of a cider fan) on a friday, just to chill. Then maybe an increase on a saturday.

Im still in the cutting stages and it's going along pretty good etc. I just don't want to hinder my progress or even worse go off track completely. Since I understand body building has the little to no social life side of it lol.

Ultra_Extreme · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:32

if your cutting stick to no more than two or three pints apart from the odd occasions. Remember theres 1000 crap calories in 4 pints. Not good m8. I loose weight JUST stopping beer lol its wierd but not when you consider the numbers

SK07 · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:35

Ultra_Extreme said:
if your cutting stick to no more than two or three pints apart from the odd occasions. Remember theres 1000 crap calories in 4 pints. Not good m8. I loose weight JUST stopping beer lol its wierd but not when you consider the numbers

Cider though, it's juices of apples

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pointles arguement I guess but I suppose it has less calories, maybe...

Well so much for peer pressure. Looks like I'll stick with a pint of water.....

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Chong Warrior · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:39

Ultra_Extreme said:
In fact since alcohol promotes testosterone and inhibits the stress hormone cortisol, i'd imagine its pretty good for BB'ing.

That's not how I understand it. Or are you just talking about maybe a couple of pints?

From what I've read getting drunk and consuming excessive alcohol can lower testosterone levels for several days.

benjo plz. · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:41

Ultra_Extreme said:
afaik theres no correlation between alcohol consumption and poor muscle growth

I was under the impression it inhibited protein synthesis

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Ultra_Extreme · 5 Oct 2007 at 17:56

both the above maybe true, im only speaking outta low level biology. Test levels being down for days might be due to an excessive spik produced during consumption. Alcohol may inhibit protein synthesis, can you provide any links to reputed evidence? (ie not americans who pretty much consider more than one pint to be alcoholism and condemn you to death for an 8 pint binge)

Chong Warrior · 5 Oct 2007 at 18:11

You want to know about alcohol and training, etc have a read of these:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/CalebStone/alcohol
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/CalebStone/chemicallycorrrectll

A2Z · 5 Oct 2007 at 18:19

tbh though on a cut - with the calorie deficit i would rather be putting every last calorie to good use with things my body needs (pro/carb/fat) rather then empty calories in alcohol

or maybe im just a perfectionist

SK07 · 5 Oct 2007 at 22:23

A2Z said:
tbh though on a cut - with the calorie deficit i would rather be putting every last calorie to good use with things my body needs (pro/carb/fat) rather then empty calories in alcohol

or maybe im just a perfectionist

Do you have a social life lol?

Ultra_Extreme · 5 Oct 2007 at 22:38

Chong Warrior said:
You want to know about alcohol and training, etc have a read of these:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/CalebStone/alcohol
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/CalebStone/chemicallycorrrectll

Those are good reads! Im still gonna stick with the arnie mentality on this one, no heavy drinking when cutting, rest of the time do whatever.

Wish i could find a high protein alcohol (please dont suggest guiness!)

Morba · 5 Oct 2007 at 22:48

SK07 said:
Do you have a social life lol?

you need to be drunk to have a social life?

SK07 · 5 Oct 2007 at 23:12

Morba said:
you need to be drunk to have a social life?

Well up here thats what it's about.

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Ultra_Extreme · 5 Oct 2007 at 23:12

Morba said:
you need to be drunk to have a social life?

oh yes, im horrifically boring when sober!

A2Z · 6 Oct 2007 at 00:44

SK07 said:
Well up here thats what it's about. .

wow your cool

SK07 · 6 Oct 2007 at 10:42

A2Z said:
wow your cool

Yeah, and im finding it pretty hard to belive your at uni and don't....

Ultra_Extreme · 6 Oct 2007 at 10:50

Haha dont rise to it, non drinkers are people im suspicious of, its not normal. Fact is they all tend to die younger due to the atrophy of their fun glands

Morba · 6 Oct 2007 at 11:17

SK07 said:
Yeah, and im finding it pretty hard to belive your at uni and don't....

and dont believe the point of going out is to get drunk, otherwise its not worth it?
not everyone has that opinion you know ;]

SK07 · 8 Oct 2007 at 15:17

Should I keep my cardio day? after each weight session I've been doing HIIT on the cross trainer just for like 5-10 minutes, rock solid. Anyway for my cardio day, should I keep it? or drop it? if to keep, what to do? just sit on the treadmill for an hour or cross trainer?

Ultra_Extreme · 8 Oct 2007 at 15:37

SK07 said:
Should I keep my cardio day? after each weight session I've been doing HIIT on the cross trainer just for like 5-10 minutes, rock solid. Anyway for my cardio day, should I keep it? or drop it? if to keep, what to do? just sit on the treadmill for an hour or cross trainer?

I think you've been told a bunch of times to stop doing cardio after weights, why is it you fly in the face of good advice?

Morba · 8 Oct 2007 at 18:13

Ultra_Extreme said:
I think you've been told a bunch of times to stop doing cardio after weights, why is it you fly in the face of good advice?

indeed, though medium paced cardio is fine, he has been told plenty that HIIT is counter productive to the purpose of the weights.
he is seeing the results that keep him happy though, so who are we to argue!