GPU prices go boom

chroniclard · 15 Apr 2018 at 12:42

PegasusOne said:
Got tired off watching the bitcoin market Managed to get an RX580 for an acceptable price but all it does is crash my system repeatedly. Not best pleased with AMD right now.

Probably been mined on.

PegasusOne · 15 Apr 2018 at 12:43

chroniclard said:
Probably been mined on.

Yeah, except it is new.

chroniclard · 15 Apr 2018 at 12:44

Yeah but cant trust those retailers, they all mine on cards before sale.

x-st · 15 Apr 2018 at 12:55

chroniclard said:
Yeah but cant trust those retailers, they all mine on cards before sale.

Only madness lies that way...if you can't trust used hardware, but you can't trust new hardware, there's literally nowhere to go apart from away from the PC as a platform.

pete910 · 15 Apr 2018 at 13:19

PegasusOne said:
Not best pleased with AMD right now

Have to ask what makes you think it's the card that's causing it ?

RSR · 15 Apr 2018 at 13:24

These are bargin at the moment.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-41l-as.html

:eek:

Cooper · 15 Apr 2018 at 13:24

I could see the value in paying £700 for a 1080Ti if PC games were producing visuals better than what God Of War on PS4 Pro is turning out, but there isn't a single game on PC that looks as good as it does on a crappy old 2014 era, 4.2Tflop GPU.

All goes to show the old saying...it's not what you've got but how you use it.

PegasusOne · 15 Apr 2018 at 13:31

pete910 said:
Have to ask what makes you think it's the card that's causing it ?

Well i've no definative proof, but the only thing that has changed is the graphics card. There are quite a few posts on the AMD forums about this as well, with no fix and no input from AMD. We can't all have duff PSU's and the list of things I haven't done is getting rather short. In the end, I shoudn't have to mess with a card for 12 hours (and counting) to get it to work.
I'll give you my system is old, but I can't find any reason why it should be causing a hard crash when under load that requires a power cycle to fix.The previous card (also AMD) was happy as pie for a long time and when I switch it back it's fine.

I spent quite a bit of cash and waited the best part of 3 months and get 2 seconds of gameplay followed by 12 hours of troubleshooting to get hardly anywhere.

I'm about to flash motherboard bios.

B&W · 15 Apr 2018 at 14:12

Cooper said:
I could see the value in paying £700 for a 1080Ti if PC games were producing visuals better than what God Of War on PS4 Pro is turning out, but there isn't a single game on PC that looks as good as it does on a crappy old 2014 era, 4.2Tflop GPU.

All goes to show the old saying...it's not what you've got but how you use it.

So true, the better upgrade would be a PS4 Pro and a 4KTV for a similar price.

RSR · 15 Apr 2018 at 14:12

x-st said:
Only madness lies that way...if you can't trust used hardware, but you can't trust new hardware, there's literally nowhere to go apart from away from the PC as a platform.

If its new, it should always have the security seals intact if it doesn't id be sending the card back for a refund.

AiiR · 15 Apr 2018 at 15:57

chroniclard said:
Yeah but cant trust those retailers, they all mine on cards before sale.

If I bought a new card and it didn't arrive in cellophane like new cards should, I'd be sending it back anyway.

nomadd · 15 Apr 2018 at 18:22

Cooper said:
I could see the value in paying £700 for a 1080Ti if PC games were producing visuals better than what God Of War on PS4 Pro is turning out, but there isn't a single game on PC that looks as good as it does on a crappy old 2014 era, 4.2Tflop GPU.

All goes to show the old saying...it's not what you've got but how you use it.

Add Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Lost Legacy into that too.

Grabbed a PS4Pro last year because of the PC Graphics card madness and it was the best thing I ever did. Lots of great games for PS4 on thebay for £15-25.

Davanius · 15 Apr 2018 at 19:15

nomadd said:
Add Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Lost Legacy into that too.

Grabbed a PS4Pro last year because of the PC Graphics card madness and it was the best thing I ever did. Lots of great games for PS4 on the bay for £15-25.

Bought one yesterday and can't believe how devs can get such good visuals out of them.

Frozennova · 15 Apr 2018 at 19:18

Davanius said:
Bought one yesterday and can't believe how devs can get such good visuals out of them.

Simples.

They're developing games that are generally 30FPS locked for one very specific combination of hardware and software rather than trying to cater for the thousands you end up with developing for PC

DELETED_195422 · 15 Apr 2018 at 21:05

My next GPU upgrade will be to run demanding VR titles. Not mediocre AAA console ports.

pete910 · 15 Apr 2018 at 21:32

PegasusOne said:
Well i've no definative proof, but the only thing that has changed is the graphics card. There are quite a few posts on the AMD forums about this as well, with no fix and no input from AMD. We can't all have duff PSU's and the list of things I haven't done is getting rather short. In the end, I shoudn't have to mess with a card for 12 hours (and counting) to get it to work.
I'll give you my system is old, but I can't find any reason why it should be causing a hard crash when under load that requires a power cycle to fix.The previous card (also AMD) was happy as pie for a long time and when I switch it back it's fine.

I spent quite a bit of cash and waited the best part of 3 months and get 2 seconds of gameplay followed by 12 hours of troubleshooting to get hardly anywhere.

I'm about to flash motherboard bios.

Could be a duff card(RMA maybe) , going on you saying your system is old(how old) A bios update may have been in order before you changed cards.

Not looked on AMD forums tbh so cant comment on that.

I feel your frustration, 12hrs is a long while, Would not 10 mins placing the card in another comp been worth while effort if possible ?

Not the best place to discuss this though, AMD driver thread may be better.

GTiPUG · 16 Apr 2018 at 10:14

Saw a GTX1080ti go for £600 earlier (used around one year). Anyone think it's worth jumping in at that price?

willhub · 16 Apr 2018 at 10:22

GTiPUG said:
Saw a GTX1080ti go for £600 earlier (used around one year). Anyone think it's worth jumping in at that price?

Sounds good to me, about 2 months ago my GTX 1080 cost me £622 :'(

GTiPUG · 16 Apr 2018 at 10:44

willhub said:
Sounds good to me, about 2 months ago my GTX 1080 cost me £622 :'(

That's unfortunate, although I guess you chose to buy in the bubble

It's a huge packet to splash on a GPU so I'm 50/50!

I'd prefer to be paying £500 but hey ho.

bigmike20vt · 16 Apr 2018 at 10:54

B&W said:
So true, the better upgrade would be a PS4 Pro and a 4KTV for a similar price.

depends what games you play.

compare skyrim VR (after it has been modded up) on PC to PS4... or then there are the games like Elite D which do not even get VR counterparts, and not certain but dont think it runs native 4K on console either.

Sure PS4 gets resident evil and Wipeout VR (and trust me i AM jealous) but that is a licensing issue not a technical one.

even stuff like pCARS2 or Apex Construct (the former PSVR support was dropped AFAIK and the latter is clearly not as good)

I have a PS4 pro and it is a very nice machine.... but it is not comparable in many aspects to a high end pc (and no i am not one of those obnoxious pc master race folk)