GPU PRICES: SOME BIG DROPS AT OcUK!!!

FoxEye · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:10

HRL said:
Weren’t they limited to one item per order?

Miners would just order as many as they liked one at a time.

Yeah. As Gibbo said, they can only make it more time-consuming for miners to buy them, but there's no way to stop miners buying them all (one-by-one) if they so desire.

HRL · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:12

FoxEye said:
Yeah. As Gibbo said, they can only make it more time-consuming for miners to buy them, but there's no way to stop miners buying them all (one-by-one) if they so desire.

Could limit them to forum members only? A limited number of course.

RSR · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:13

FoxEye said:
Yeah. As Gibbo said, they can only make it more time-consuming for miners to buy them, but there's no way to stop miners buying them all (one-by-one) if they so desire.

I was under the impression the mining boom was over?

FoxEye · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:15

RSR said:
I was under the impression the mining boom was over?

I've never said that. Nor have I seen evidence that it's over.

Zairs · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:15

FoxEye said:
Yeah. As Gibbo said, they can only make it more time-consuming for miners to buy them, but there's no way to stop miners buying them all (one-by-one) if they so desire.

How would you define a "miner" and not a gamer??

If someone bought a gpu and played games on it once a week and the rest of the time they did a bit of casual mining to help cover the cost, would they be a gamer or a miner?
What of that gamer had kids and could only play a game once a mo lnth, would they be a gamer or a miner. How would you decide?

FoxEye · 28 Mar 2018 at 20:19

Zairs said:
How would you define a "miner" and not a gamer??

If someone bought a gpu and played games on it once a week and the rest of the time they did a bit of casual mining to help cover the cost, would they be a gamer or a miner?
What of that gamer had kids and could only play a game once a mo lnth, would they be a gamer or a miner. How would you decide?

You're coming at it from the wrong angle.

If a person buys one or two cards, I couldn't care less what they do with it. Game with it, mine, put it in a display case. Don't care!

If a person buys all the cards he can get his hands on, effectively killing PC gaming as a hobby for many people - well, I have a different opinion of that person

Make of that what you will. It's a matter of opinion at the end of the day.

Gibbo · 28 Mar 2018 at 22:14

FoxEye said:
Not that you can know for sure, but I wonder if even 20% of those were bought by gamers.

The way the cards sell out immediately suggests to me that miners are still gobbling them up.

Let's face it, the majority of gamers are not all clamouring to buy £800 - £1000 GPUs.

We monitor the orders and generally most cards have been purchased with CPU's, motherboards, ram kits etc. So when orders are going through for 1 card, with an 8700k, 8 Pack memory, that most definetely is not a miner, gamers and DIY upgraders are back in their droves.

Remember high pricing has prevented a lot of gamers getting the deal they wanted for months, we've done what we can with voucher codes but that was like 200-300 codes, our customer base is in its thousands and the 200-300 codes were posted on forum only which is a much smaller percentage of our customer base and hence why they lasted a few days. When we drop a price online our stock sells out insanely fast as we have a huge customer base of gamers who are not forum members also buying from us.

As such by just dropping all the prices online, the DIY and gaming enthusiast has seen and clearly purchased themselves an upgrade. When we dropped prices online a few weeks ago, same happened, stock sold fast and we could see people buying entire baskets so clearly doing an upgrade.

A mining customer orders differently, they either just try placing repeat orders on same card which were not seeing so much off this past week, though miners are still calling us trying to buy cards in volume which we refuse to do so as we need our inventory for our regular customers and SI.

But typical a miner just buys a card, also the cheapest card of a GPU type and if they do order components with it then its like a Celeron CPU, 4G memory module and high wattage PSU, mining cables and mining motherboard.
The only mining orders we entertain in B2B at moment is on AMD as we have huge volumes are of stock, 1000+ VEGA, 1000+ RX580 and as such today a mining customer wanted a couple hundred RX 580 which we told them no unless they ordered the mining cables, PSU's, motherboards and processors from us, which in the end they did. They expect no discount as they can see our AMD pricing online and they know its the lowest in the industry and that were just making around 10% margin but we have enough AMD to fulfill mining, gaming and professional requirements, as such sales are strong.

NVIDIA supply is still extremely lacking for us, having good strong prices last week has pretty much wiped our stocks out with the return of DIY and gamers buying as we were the first to get prices down, were pushing for more deals too but most partners are very reluctant to do deals with so little supply or other regions crying out for stock and willing to pay more. But I push relentlessly for best price and stock!

gpuerrilla · 28 Mar 2018 at 23:16

Encouraging as its a sign of returning to some normality. May take a few months then to stabalise but at least its moving in the right direction!

bigmike20vt · 28 Mar 2018 at 23:17

Hi. My last 2 major upgrades have been got from here a bargain black Friday 2014 gtx 980 and a black Friday 2015 intel i7 bundle.
My 4k TV arrives on sat. Any chance of another batch of ..... I won't say affordable

.... Slightly less mental priced 1080tis coming in or is that likely it for now? Thanks

Gibbo · 28 Mar 2018 at 23:22

bigmike20vt said:
Hi. My last 2 major upgrades have been got from here a bargain black Friday 2014 gtx 980 and a black Friday 2015 intel i7 bundle.
My 4k TV arrives on sat. Any chance of another batch of ..... I won't say affordable .... Slightly less mental priced 1080tis coming in or is that likely it for now? Thanks

Yes I have another batch incoming, keep your eye on the Zotac Mini and Inno3D Twin X2 1080Ti's as fingers crossed I can do something on those next week, but I will only have like 100 of each so they will sell out very quick.

chrcoluk · 29 Mar 2018 at 10:05

yeah my mini mining rig order was this (from ocuk)

2 x zotac mini 1070
asus z270 prime board (i went for a z series board as I was thinking at the time it could be repurposed as my main rig board should I upgrade my rig at a later date)
4 gig ocuk value ram
500 watt psu
intel g4400 pentium cpu

So from what gibbo said, bang on right on the cheapest lower capacity ram I could find and likewise for the cpu. PSU was underspecced for the hardware but I ran the hardware in low pwer mode which is all that was needed for ETH, when I did try other coins it was harder with the power constraints.

Gibbo · 29 Mar 2018 at 10:30

chrcoluk said:
yeah my mini mining rig order was this (from ocuk)

2 x zotac mini 1070
asus z270 prime board (i went for a z series board as I was thinking at the time it could be repurposed as my main rig board should I upgrade my rig at a later date)
4 gig ocuk value ram
500 watt psu
intel g4400 pentium cpu

So from what gibbo said, bang on right on the cheapest lower capacity ram I could find and likewise for the cpu. PSU was underspecced for the hardware but I ran the hardware in low pwer mode which is all that was needed for ETH, when I did try other coins it was harder with the power constraints.

Yes it is quite easy to spot, gamers don't buy Celeron or just 4G of memory.

killem · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:05

@Gibbo

I Have noticed most of the big online retailers in the UK cant get stock of the EVGA hybrid cards as looking to upgrade system when Ryzen+ lands and I am tempted to go with a Hybrid to replace a watercooled 290X that outputs a lot of heat under load.
Ideally want the 1070ti but may stretch to the 1080ti. Any chance you see stock levels improving on these cards?

Gibbo · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:10

killem said:
@Gibbo

I Have noticed most of the big online retailers in the UK cant get stock of the EVGA hybrid cards as looking to upgrade system when Ryzen+ lands and I am tempted to go with a Hybrid to replace a watercooled 290X that outputs a lot of heat under load.
Ideally want the 1070ti but may stretch to the 1080ti. Any chance you see stock levels improving on these cards?

I am afraid not, due to the GPU shortage most board partners are opting to not build the crazy high-end cards and focusing more on the normal air cooled cards. Your best bet is to monitor the EVGA site closely and keep your fingers crossed.

PAULRYAN52 · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:34

any chance of the gigabyte 1080ti extreme wb going any cheaper

Gibbo · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:37

PAULRYAN52 said:
any chance of the gigabyte 1080ti extreme wb going any cheaper

At present were making 15-17% on both the watercooled Gigabyte 1080Ti, so that gives you an idea of what the price could be if we made 8% but as we have less than 5 in stock and are selling 2-5pc every day right now we simply do not have supply to drop prices, if anything they will go up further in price to try and reduce sales.

PAULRYAN52 · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:40

pity as I was planning a full upgrade with wc

dazzlaa · 29 Mar 2018 at 11:53

killem said:
@Gibbo

I Have noticed most of the big online retailers in the UK cant get stock of the EVGA hybrid cards as looking to upgrade system when Ryzen+ lands and I am tempted to go with a Hybrid to replace a watercooled 290X that outputs a lot of heat under load.
Ideally want the 1070ti but may stretch to the 1080ti. Any chance you see stock levels improving on these cards?

I pre ordered a hybrid 1070ti the other day for a respectable price from rainforest.
There is no date as yet but it allows me time to watch prices and look for a better deal.

Steampunk · 29 Mar 2018 at 12:05

Gibbo said:
The problem is we cannot do anything without stock and the stock we are getting is not enough to put them in stock, so we simply cannot do anything I am afraid.

So Gibbo, you've obviously talked to suppliers, what's the medium view with regards to supply? Are we going to see supply increase any time in the next six months to the point where we are not dealing with sky-high prices due to everything being rare, hard to get and in short supply?

Gibbo · 29 Mar 2018 at 12:12

Steampunk said:
So Gibbo, you've obviously talked to suppliers, what's the medium view with regards to supply? Are we going to see supply increase any time in the next six months to the point where we are not dealing with sky-high prices due to everything being rare, hard to get and in short supply?

If demand stays as it is now, by that I mean mining demand has reduced, but if not completely gone then by mid-end May supplies may improve. Problem is if that happens the moment we then do reduce prices the sales explode again and the stock is gone again, so though prices will get better, they will never be epic again but supply will remain tight no doubt until end of Summer and no one really knows what the future holds. Mining could be dead in 3 months, or it could explode again, its a complete unknown.