Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [6th - 8th Feb 2021]

I don't think Klopps job is any risk or needs to be, it's our first bad spell under him.

If anything if Klopp thought he couldn't do no more, I'm sure he would go to the owners and like dortmund just agree to part ways
 
Keane only one being realistic about Foden, souness and Richards in awe.

Don't get me wrong Foden is quality but we did make everything easy for him and city over all
 
Ayahuasca said:
Do you think this would have been the right game to start one or both of the new lads?
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With hindsight? We lost the game so yea, not that I think it would have changed much. Before the game it wasn't a straight forward decision and there was arguments for and against. The fact that Davies doesn't even make the bench today would suggest he's just been brought in to make up the numbers but long term I'd imagine you're going to see Kabak playing regularly and at least one of Hendo or Fabinho moving back into midfield but to throw him in today, after a few days training and vs City of all teams was far from ideal.
 
BaZ87 said:
With hindsight? We lost the game so yea, not that I think it would have changed much. Before the game it wasn't a straight forward decision and there was arguments for and against. The fact that Davies doesn't even make the bench today would suggest he's just been brought in to make up the numbers but long term I'd imagine you're going to see Kabak playing regularly and at least one of Hendo or Fabinho moving back into midfield but to throw him in today, after a few days training and vs City of all teams was far from ideal.
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I wasn't overly happy with the midfield before the game started but we coped ok until Pep changed things at HT. City moving to a 442 nullified our attack and opened up options for them going forward and as soon as it became obvious things were moving in their favour we should've taken Gini or Thiago off, brought Phillips or Kabak on and moved Henderson forward.

Thiago wasn't having an impact on the game, Gini looked dead on his feet after every run but we chose to take Jones off instead. I thought he was having a good game and, more importantly, he provided the energy in midfield today. I guess Klopp realised we were struggling and tried to play it safe by bringing Milner on but he chose the wrong player to take off and City just ran riot after that.
 
Andybtsn said:
Can’t remember who said it but it was brilliant then and even better now, they’d have Jones over Foden :D
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No you assumed that.

I said two months ago only one would win YPOTY and it was Jones and at the time i was correct. Alisson should have saved that today.

He was our best player today and im absolutely puzzled why he was taken off. Other then his goal im not sure Foden played that well. A third of his passes went to Liverpool
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
I wasn't overly happy with the midfield before the game started but we coped ok until Pep changed things at HT. City moving to a 442 nullified our attack and opened up options for them going forward and as soon as it became obvious things were moving in their favour we should've taken Gini or Thiago off, brought Phillips or Kabak on and moved Henderson forward.

Thiago wasn't having an impact on the game, Gini looked dead on his feet after every run but we chose to take Jones off instead. I thought he was having a good game and, more importantly, he provided the energy in midfield today. I guess Klopp realised we were struggling and tried to play it safe by bringing Milner on but he chose the wrong player to take off and City just ran riot after that.
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The Jones sub was absolutely baffling. Comfortably our best player today and hes subbed.

Really didnt get that.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
..and City just ran riot after that.
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I really didn't see it that way. It wasn't as if City were dominating the ball and creating anything, we just gift wrapped them two goals in quick succession.

I think you've got a bit confused with the subs. We took off Jones and Thiago at the same time for Milner and Shaq. I'm not sure you can say that playing Shaqiri in a midfield 3 is playing it safe. I assume the Thiago/Milner switch was to get fresh legs on the pitch with Thiago playing every game of late. I agree that Jones was playing well and certainly didn't need bringing off for fitness reasons/fresh legs so I can only assume it was in the hope that Shaq might create something out of nothing.

As for moving Hendo into midfield, I'm starting to wonder whether we'd be better leaving him at CB and moving Fabinho back into midfield. He's generally done really well at CB but the one area of Fabinho's game that worries me is the silly fouls he's giving away. Part of being a CB is knowing when not to make a challenge and Fabinho keeps falling into the same trap with forwards just waiting for him to get a bit too tight or to stick a leg out for them to go over.
 
Man United lose 6-1 to Spurs, Liverpool lose 7-2 to Villa, Liverpool win 7-0, Man Utd win 6-2. De Gea becomes a liability and so does Alisson. I see a pattern emerging here >_<.

Oil barons running away with it now. League is pretty much done with champions and relegation pretty much sorted. Just Europe spots to play for now.
 
omnomnom said:
No you assumed that.

I said two months ago only one would win YPOTY and it was Jones and at the time i was correct. Alisson should have saved that today.

He was our best player today and im absolutely puzzled why he was taken off. Other then his goal im not sure Foden played that well. A third of his passes went to Liverpool
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Ah it was you, who'd have thought. You were wrong two months ago :)
 
BaZ87 said:
I really didn't see it that way. It wasn't as if City were dominating the ball and creating anything, we just gift wrapped them two goals in quick succession.

I think you've got a bit confused with the subs. We took off Jones and Thiago at the same time for Milner and Shaq. I'm not sure you can say that playing Shaqiri in a midfield 3 is playing it safe. I assume the Thiago/Milner switch was to get fresh legs on the pitch with Thiago playing every game of late. I agree that Jones was playing well and certainly didn't need bringing off for fitness reasons/fresh legs so I can only assume it was in the hope that Shaq might create something out of nothing.

As for moving Hendo into midfield, I'm starting to wonder whether we'd be better leaving him at CB and moving Fabinho back into midfield. He's generally done really well at CB but the one area of Fabinho's game that worries me is the silly fouls he's giving away. Part of being a CB is knowing when not to make a challenge and Fabinho keeps falling into the same trap with forwards just waiting for him to get a bit too tight or to stick a leg out for them to go over.
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Do you not think thats just a case of him playing more games and theres a bigger sample size for mistakes?
 
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