Greenlizard0 Premier League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [18th - 20th January 2025]

The only criticism I have of Amorim is that the greatest managers are pragmatic, they don't generally have one way of playing and refuse to really change that.

But 90% of the blame lies with the Glazers, and the overpaid and overrated players. I'm not going to blame INEOS yet as expecting them to fix everything in 6 months is unrealistic too, although the Ashworth thing is a strange one.
 
Robbo said:
The only criticism I have of Amorim is that the greatest managers are pragmatic, they don't generally have one way of playing and refuse to really change that.

But 90% of the blame lies with the Glazers, and the overpaid and overrated players. I'm not going to blame INEOS yet as expecting them to fix everything in 6 months is unrealistic too, although the Ashworth thing is a strange one.
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Don't agree on either count.
Amorim will have told them how he does things. Ineos knew what they were getting and they must have known that this squad is not good enough. If Amorim compromises, gets a bounce, finishes 7th and wins a cup NOTHING will change. It needs the complete reset and exposing for the mess the club is. Not for Amorim to compromise his philosophy at the first sign of trouble.

Ineos have been there for a year and this is their third transfer window. They stuck with ten Hag too long, allowed him to influence bringing more players in and they have bungled bringing in a manager half way through a season. There is no sign of anything good from Ineos yet (unless you believe in Amorim). Ineos are complicit with the Glazers. They let those parasites off the hook by allowing them to snaffle £1.5bn and we still have a truckload of debt, no decision on a stadium and a team that is embarrassing the supporters.

It was never going to be a quick fix but I'm struggling to find one unequivocally positive decision they have made.
 
Calpol said:
Don't agree on either count.
Amorim will have told them how he does things. Ineos knew what they were getting and they must have known that this squad is not good enough. If Amorim compromises, gets a bounce, finishes 7th and wins a cup NOTHING will change. It needs the complete reset and exposing for the mess the club is. Not for Amorim to compromise his philosophy at the first sign of trouble.

Ineos have been there for a year and this is their third transfer window. They stuck with ten Hag too long, allowed him to influence bringing more players in and they have bungled bringing in a manager half way through a season. There is no sign of anything good from Ineos yet (unless you believe in Amorim). Ineos are complicit with the Glazers. They let those parasites off the hook by allowing them to snaffle £1.5bn and we still have a truckload of debt, no decision on a stadium and a team that is embarrassing the supporters.

It was never going to be a quick fix but I'm struggling to find one unequivocally positive decision they have made.
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Oh don't worry, I'm not going to defend INEOS here, there are plenty of red flags and concerns. The ETH situation in the summer was breathtakingly stupid. I just mean it's still a relatively short space of time, and there will always be some mistakes.

Ratcliffe seems more and more focused on getting a 'Wembley of the North' 100,000 seater stadium built, rather than worrying about the club itself.

I agree he shouldn't compromise his philosophy, and nor should he, but there always has to be some sort of middle ground especially in the early stages.
 
Bigpig said:
That’s the opposite of a new manger bonce?
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If City get Marmoush and another player or two, you could see them climbing the table pretty rapidly... confidence seems to be coming back. Wouldn't surprise me if they finished 2nd.
 
Is neck grabbing acceptable now? That’s twice in three games a Utd player has had an opponent’s hand around their throat.

Havertz on Ugarte
March on Garnacho
 
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