Chelsea have stolen 4 points off WHU, Fulham, WBA, Liverpool, Swansea & QPR without beating any of them.
They've spent £M's more than Arsenal, what a mess.
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Chelsea have stolen 4 points off WHU, Fulham, WBA, Liverpool, Swansea & QPR without beating any of them.
They've spent £M's more than Arsenal, what a mess.
Your fans aren't helping matters, constantly slating a manager who is trying to turn your fortunes around. Whether he's the amazing manager that some Liverpool fans seem to think is purely a matter of opinion, I think he's okay, not great but not terrible.
It's all completely illogical, he needs to be supported, he's there, even Abramovich won't sack him in under a month, so give him a chance. Chelsea's fans are only hurting their club at the moment, there's more to football than merely the manager. Frankly it makes them all look rather pathetic.
I give up.
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No Malaga are having a firesale, and the only one who is being sold is Santi, because he's totally their bestest player, buy him before its too late, for a really big fee... because otherwise you'll miss out on your chance...........
Yeah, we have a manager who fell for a ridiculous con, he left cos they realised Isco would take the slack
Unfortunately Snax, 4 years ago we were 2-3 players from competing for the title, people call me negative but I think every year from invincibles till maybe 2008 or so, we could win the title with basically the squad we had, playing our best players rather than benching them and/or forcing them out of the team. I think I'm the only Arsenal fan who thought so and the only fan who thought that extra spending other teams was doing was largely on complete wasters.
Now we can't sign 2-3 players, 143mil wage bill, to sign 2-3 players, we need to offload ALL the crap and free up the wages, squad space and frankly not have them train or rely on those players.
Rosicky just got a new deal, on a wage no one else will offer, and he promptly got injured, no one will take him, we're stuck with him. Djourou talks about moving on... lol, no one will offer half the wage we've given him, he's literally useless. Squillaci is waiting out his contract, maybe has another year after this one, not sure. Chamakh is waiting out his contract, Denilson STILL hasn't gone, Diaby has ages left, Gervinho, Walcott we will no doubt cave because Wenger is a little *****, give him say 90k a week and be stuck with him for 4 years(though another manager may use him in the incredibly limited way he can be useful without hurting the team badly on the wing).
Santi I'm really not convinced of at all, if he turns out to be a dud, we're stuck with him for years, Santos, stuck with him, Gibbs, stuck with him, Mert, stuck with him.
As I suggested, we're where Liverpool were, Rafa was taking them the wrong way and had degraded the squad, their only real success came with largely Houllier's squad(imagine where Liverpool would be if Torres's form tanked like it has at Chelsea, when he joined Liverpool, they've have been awful much earlier). It took them two years to get rid of Maxi and Kuyt, they lost Bellamy(his own choice for other reasons completely), Ngog and other crud they needed rid of. There is still waste there hanging on, Joe Cole, it will be another year or two before their wages are down, some of the crap is out, then they can start to rebuild. Chelsea/City can just throw money at people to leave, subsidise wages to get them to leave, Liverpool/Arsenal are screwed.
When Wenger leaves, we'll have 2-3 years stuck with many of the same crap players, and the fans will likely see good manager after good manager get fired till in 3 years the dead weight being gone will finally allow a manager to build up a squad with whatever good players haven't begged to leave.
In all that time, people will blame the new manager and cry about firing Wenger because we "were never this bad under him", but ultimately those years will be his fault.
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"We never competed for a cross, but in fairness to Reading they have great deliverers of the ball - [Nicky] Shorey whips in fantastic crosses. But we should have been doing better. We could have been battered today, but thankfully we are always scoring goals and that is rescuing us every time. Wayne [Rooney] was fantastic in the first half, as was Robin [van Persie] and Ashley Young. Ashley is right back to form and he gave them a really hard time."
He's actually gone senile
He's actually gone senile
Fans hate him so it's not illogical at all.
Imagine if he was suddenly the manager of Man.U., do you think he would be welcomed? Don't bother retorting with "It'd never happen"
Chelsea fans aren't hurting their club, the performances and off field circumstances are.
They're just as pathetic as every other club's supporters out there really and less pathetic than the majority of name calling brats in here.
Why exactly do they hate him? Because he gave Chelsea a bit of stick when he was the Liverpool manager? Boo hoo. Not the end of the world is it. Let it go.
I don't think he'd be welcomed, but I'd expect the more intelligent fans to at least get behind him somewhat. Turn on him if and when he does horribly.
No need to be offended, I wasn't aiming my comments at you, more the general vibe from your fans.
You don't have to like him, but given the current circumstances he has to be given a chance. The severe negativity around your club at the moment could do a lot of fairly long term damage.
Let's say you lose your next game 5-0 and then he gets sacked, who do you think will jump in and take his place? Pep? I doubt it.
It is funny, all wound up over the plastic flags comment, didn't mourinho call your fans soft?
Despite all their silly home made banners and making stamford bridge sound like the emirates do they honestly think they are helping their football team? RA isn't going to sack him, he couldn't care less. The players however aren't going to thrive on the toxic atmosphere the 'fans' create are they?
It's because of what he said regarding the club & it's fans, it was a bit more than a bit of stick, Man.U. fans aren't as intelligent as Chelsea fans (facht) so they would be even more opposed to his appointment if he'd said the same thing in their direction, same as Everton fans would, and not delivering.
I'm not offended in the slightest.
He will be given a chance and if he was sacked tomorrow it wouldn't do any long term damage, he's just interim anyway.
I don't get where the Pep stuff comes from either, newspapers?
Chelsea fans would kill for JM back above Guardiola any day but RA's (apparent) crush on him isn't as romantic as JM coming back to where he's always said he wants to end up so it's not a paper seller.
If a manager of another club ****ged off all the fans of your club would you cheer him when he took over at the helm of the club that you follow?
What, that plastic flags are stupid and don't help anything? Hardly massively offensive is it.
Calling him 'interim' was stupid also, that doesn't help matters.
He isn't being given a chance, seemingly a lot of fans wanted him out before he even said/did anything - that's not being given a chance.
I don't think either of them is a realistic goal, so who would you like, out of interest, any ideas?
What, that plastic flags are stupid and don't help anything? Hardly massively offensive is it.
Calling him 'interim' was stupid also, that doesn't help matters.
He isn't being given a chance, seemingly a lot of fans wanted him out before he even said/did anything - that's not being given a chance.
I don't think either of them is a realistic goal, so who would you like, out of interest, any ideas?
Come back when you've googled what he said and apply that to your team.
He is interim, thank ****, so how can that be stupid?
You'd cheer Mourinho and he pretty much just called you all rich/suit and tie bunch/soft did he not?
Also I'm not sure, no manager really has had a go at our fans ever, not sure why but I don't know how I'd react. I certainly wouldn't be booing him at the match and holding those pathetic word art 'banners', but no I wouldn't be cheering. (Unless Balotelli becomes a manager.)
Did he?
I didn't boo Benitez either, as I've already mentioned in here, but I can at least understand why some did.