Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [12th - 15th January 2017]
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Utd fans doing an Arsenal celebrating a draw, at home, like a win. Galling thing was it was their only shot on target, in the second half, yet they scored from it.
Without Ibra and his goals for Utd, Utd would be 13th place. They really are a one man team these days.
Without Ibra and his goals for Utd, Utd would be 13th place. They really are a one man team these days.
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How do you describe red card challenges then?
As I mentioned already, a challenge is a red card if you're risking serious injury. There doesn't need to be intent, despite what some people want to think. Rooney's gone over the ball and his full weight has gone studs first, down onto Milner's ankle. He could have easily injured him and it should have been a red.
A red card challenge would be a 'shocking challenge' from where i'm sitting.
Gone over the ball? I don't think you understand what going over the ball means.
The ball wasn't even there to go over, he's putting his foot up to try and control it, Milner comes in from the side and thus Rooney makes contact.... it's just never been a red card.
A red card challenge would be a 'shocking challenge' from where i'm sitting.
Gone over the ball? I don't think you understand what going over the ball means.
I do and it's pretty easy. It's when, rather than you're swinging your leg and it's moving horizontally, you do as Rooney's done, and you're going from a position above the ball, going down into a tackle
Rooney could and should have attempted to win that ball with a blocked side foot. He didn't though.
Rooney's studs are going from above the ball, down into the challenge. Regardless of where Milner comes from, regardless of what Rooney is trying to do, because you must remember that intent does not matter one bit, he's stepped/stamped (whatever you want to call it) down with his full weight onto Milner's ankle. He's risked causing injury to Milner and it's a red.
I do and it's pretty easy. It's when, rather than you're swinging your leg and it's moving horizontally, you do as Rooney's done, and you're going from a position above the ball, going down into a tackle
Rooney could and should have attempted to win that ball with a blocked side foot. He didn't though.
Going over the ball will generally happen when the ball is stationary or moving towards the defending player, and the player has stamped literally over the top of the ball. Hence the phrase 'going over the ball'. Your description there would be more like a stamp to me?
How can he have possibly tried to do that with a side foot? Ever tried doing that running whilst stretching for the ball?
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I'm not sure what generally happens but it's pretty self explanatory to me. Rooney's challenged from above the height of the ball, going down into Milner's ankle.
And of course he could have gone into that challenge differently. As for the 2nd question, that's the whole problem - it's when you're having to stretch into challenge's that you risk doing exactly what Rooney's done.
Sounds more like a studs up situation to me, but meh.
As for the challenge, I don't think he could've done anything else other than simply not make the challenge. I doubt his manager would be too pleased to see people not making tackles though.
Looking at the whole situation, the way Milner has come in from the side whilst Rooney is already challenging just makes me think a red card for that would be incredibly harsh.
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Someone with sense. Even after all these years the envy from Liverpool fans is just lol worthy.
I disagree but anyway. I'm more annoyed about it because of the way the ref's bottle went as soon as he gave us the penalty rather than the decision in isolation. The lino needs sacking too - you can forgive officials for getting things wrong but he was about 10 yards out of position for their goal.
Indeed, he was miles in front of play for some reason? Bit of a strange one from him.
What's even more strange is Tyler's commentary as Valencia gets it: 'Valencia a good crosser of the ball'
Surprised no one mentioned that on here, what with the love Valencia's delivery normally gets.
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I think we were just in shock that Valencia finally worked out which colour he was supposed to be aiming for.
Sorry...isn't that ibra's job? Silly question I know.
I hate these games, they really do bring out the worst in some people.
I was disappointed with us today, Pogba was very poor, but once I saw all that emoji nonsense I knew he would be. It seems stupid to put an even greater spotlight on him than there is already, at least until he's more consistent and fully settled in the team. I thought a draw was a pretty fair result, Liverpool were fairly poor and were only ahead due to an utterly stupid handball from Pogba, I'm not sure what he was doing.
Oh, and Zlatan is great, what a player.
I was disappointed with us today, Pogba was very poor, but once I saw all that emoji nonsense I knew he would be. It seems stupid to put an even greater spotlight on him than there is already, at least until he's more consistent and fully settled in the team. I thought a draw was a pretty fair result, Liverpool were fairly poor and were only ahead due to an utterly stupid handball from Pogba, I'm not sure what he was doing.
Oh, and Zlatan is great, what a player.
I was totally bemused by his post match words.
HAHAHA.
That was an appalling 'tackle' from Rooney, he should have been showed a red card, Milner was fortunate to escape serious injury. It was more than 'only slightly late'.
Just because you think Milner is a 'thug', or whatever, does not mean that players are allowed to make such terrible tackles.