Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [12th - 18th May 2017]

Not sure if thats a good idea or not. I guess we need to keep Rashford match fit but I wouldn't like to be in the EL without him.
 
You'd think Mourinho would want to build up some confidence and momentum before a cup final, instead he's playing for draws and rambling on about how they don't want to play these games. He's doing a worse job than LvG.
 
Hes nowhere near as bad as LvG. Lvg was sucking the life out of United and making sure that any flair players were so constrained that they would want to leave the club. The football was 10x worse than its been this season and he was massively deluded.

We have tailed off this season but for spells we have played good football.
 
Janesy B said:
You'd think Mourinho would want to build up some confidence and momentum before a cup final, instead he's playing for draws and rambling on about how they don't want to play these games. He's doing a worse job than LvG.
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rest is just as important if not more so

A European final imo should give the players selected enough "momentum" irrespective of previous results (unless you are playing Real or Barca for instance) , but if the players are dead on their feet from playing 3 games in the same period the opposition have played 1, no matter who you are playing - its going to be a total mismatch

No disrespect to Southampton at all, but remember the EFL final when they really should have buried Utd in the 1st half , they were all over us and you could see they hadn't played a game in 2 weeks or something

Shamikebab said:
Well Romero was fantastic.
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He was, but De Gea is still a class above him and for that reason alone should play in the final

You don't purposefully weaken your own team whoever you are playing, and Romero is the Fellaini of gk (ok that might be a bit harsh on Romero, but he isn't anywhere near DDG)

fez said:
We have tailed off this season but for spells we have played good football.
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Quite a few of Utd's players have been really good in patches, but very few have been consistant

Bailly (ignoring a couple of very recent errors) and Herrera are the only two imo that have been consistently good throughout the season - admittedly Herrera didn't get much game time at the start of the season
 
I'm pretty sure that JM knows what he's doing and I think it's one step back, two forward time this season.
Man.U. may have been pretty dull but they have become one of the hardest teams to beat and even with makeshift defences they let in very few goals.
They've already won one trophy and are odds on for another so it's not been a bad season and next year with the better striking options that they are bound to splash out on they'll be fighting for the top spot again.
I hope I'm wrong though :p
 
JohnnyG said:
I'm pretty sure that JM knows what he's doing and I think it's one step back, two forward time this season.
Man.U. may have been pretty dull but they have become one of the hardest teams to beat and even with makeshift defences they let in very few goals.
They've already won one trophy and are odds on for another so it's not been a bad season and next year with the better striking options that they are bound to splash out on they'll be fighting for the top spot again.
I hope I'm wrong though :p
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Agreed. I think we're in for a monster transfer window, Jose will ideally want to replace half of the squad...
 
Shamikebab said:
What does that even mean. Frank you do come out with some utter guff.
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its pretty damn obvious if you bother to think about it

Romero shouldn't be the 1st choice gk (just like Fellaini shouldn't be 1st choice anywhere on the pitch) in any game , let alone a highly important final
 
JohnnyG said:
I'm pretty sure that JM knows what he's doing and I think it's one step back, two forward time this season.
Man.U. may have been pretty dull but they have become one of the hardest teams to beat and even with makeshift defences they let in very few goals.
They've already won one trophy and are odds on for another so it's not been a bad season and next year with the better striking options that they are bound to splash out on they'll be fighting for the top spot again.
I hope I'm wrong though :p
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Robbo said:
Agreed. I think we're in for a monster transfer window, Jose will ideally want to replace half of the squad...
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He started out at Utd only wanting 4 'specialist' signings and was talking of targetting the title, not settling for just top 4. Now he needs to replace half the squad - that's one hell of a step backwards :p

In all seriousness, I think he's got a bigger job now than he did 12 months ago. I mentioned in the transfer thread that it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say Utd need or Mourinho will want to replace over half the starting 11.
 
I've no idea what he said but I doubt he got those 4 specialist signings.
I think he'll get what he needs next season though if they qualify for the CL, he's already harped on about how important a game for them it is and he said similar on his return to Chelsea in regards to what he needs (player wise) to win the league, he was right too.
 
You can't replace a squad in a full window. It doesn't work like that. It would sink a team but as a squad and in terms of motivation for any one in the club and looking at the club. Financially it would be a huge burden. He brought in four specialist last year, Bailly, Ibra, Mihki and Pogba. A good chunk of the squad, but ones that need time to develop in. They're there now. Now he'll replace another 4 maybe 5 if someone is leaving. But it's yet again a gradual turn over. It's the natural way to do it.

My problems start with his tactics and will grow when he chucks DDG, Shaw, Darmian and probably Martial out of the squad. All 4 are good enough to be a part of the starting eleven if given the chance. But he refuses to. Instead we'll keep wasteful players like Valencia, Fellaini, Lingard and Jones.
 
JohnnyG said:
I've no idea what he said but I doubt he got those 4 specialist signings.
I think he'll get what he needs next season though if they qualify for the CL, he's already harped on about how important a game for them it is and he said similar on his return to Chelsea in regards to what he needs (player wise) to win the league, he was right too.
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He said he got them. I'm certain he believed that Utd would have performed a lot better than they have or else he'd have never made the comment about targetting the league - Mourinho always down plays expectations of him/his teams after all. There's no two ways about it, he/Utd have had a poor season and they're relying on the EL win to mask that. He took over a side that finished level on points with 4th, spent an absolute fortune on ready made players to go straight into and improve the side and they've finished 6th.

I honestly don't think Utd are any closer to competing for the League title than they were a year ago and if they lose De Gea they're even further away. But Mourinho's the ultimate cheque book manager and he'll keep spending and spending to get it right or until he's sacked.
 
BaZ87 said:
He said he got them. I'm certain he believed that Utd would have performed a lot better than they have or else he'd have never made the comment about targetting the league - Mourinho always down plays expectations of him/his teams after all...
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After his first season of the second coming he said he wanted something like 3-4 surgical signings to enhance the squad he had so he could win the league and then signed Costa, Fabregas and Luis and did so he's not adverse to making outlandish statements.
 
JohnnyG said:
After his first season of the second coming he said he wanted something like 3-4 surgical signings to enhance the squad he had so he could win the league and then signed Costa, Fabregas and Luis and did so he's not adverse to making outlandish statements.
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The way he talks mirrors the way his team plays. Unless he's absolutely 100% confident that his side is considerably better than the opponent then he sets his team up not to lose rather than to go out and win - I'm sure he thought Utd were capable of challenging this season and that's why he said what he did otherwise, as he's been doing for the last few months, he'd be making out 6th was an achievement.

There's a key difference between his 2nd summer back at Chelsea and his 2nd summer with Utd though. His first season back with Chelsea, they were competitive and were favourites to win the league going into the final few months of the season - it was only then that they fell away. You could see that the basis of Chelsea's side was there (it was there the season before too) and they were only missing a couple of key signings to make them an absolute force. That's not the case with Utd now though. They're as far, if not further away from the top than 12 months ago and there's so many question marks over their squad - far more than the 4 signings he needed and got last year.

That's not to say he/Utd can't make the changes needed - as I've said before, one of the big advantages of having Mourinho as manager is his connections with agents and how he almost always gets the players he wants and the Glazers will keep spending as long as Utd aren't established in the CL again. That doesn't detract from this season though - he's relying on winning the EL (and lets be fair, he's been incredibly fortunate with the standard of that competition this year) to rescue a disaster of a season given the squad and money he's had.
 
shipinabottle said:
You can't replace a squad in a full window. It doesn't work like that. It would sink a team but as a squad and in terms of motivation for any one in the club and looking at the club. Financially it would be a huge burden. He brought in four specialist last year, Bailly, Ibra, Mihki and Pogba. A good chunk of the squad, but ones that need time to develop in. They're there now. Now he'll replace another 4 maybe 5 if someone is leaving. But it's yet again a gradual turn over. It's the natural way to do it.

My problems start with his tactics and will grow when he chucks DDG, Shaw, Darmian and probably Martial out of the squad. All 4 are good enough to be a part of the starting eleven if given the chance. But he refuses to. Instead we'll keep wasteful players like Valencia, Fellaini, Lingard and Jones.
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Remember of course Utd have to replace Zlatan, so we effectively only got 3 players last summer when talking about building on those transfers for next season

DDG imo is a special case because it seems to me that he is pushing for a transfer (ad while I wish he wssnt, I also cant really blame him either) , I think thats why Jose is alternating as much as he is . While I like Darmian's charachter, but unfortunately he doesnt cut it at all on either flank.
Martial's having a difficult season but Im still hoping he will be kept over the summer (and for once the high transfer fee esp will work in our favour, because it will be difficult to get the same money back at the moment)

I would happily give away Fellaini and Jones for free but JM appears to love the former like a brother from another mother :(
 
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