Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [14th - 17th September 2012]

i know the one you're on about, that was an awful game but friedel had the sun in his eyes. a more spritely keeper may have had the footwork to still make the save but who knows?

friedel showed in our game against norwich that he is still incredibly agile for a bloke his age.
 
Strange situation indeed, here's my take on it:

-Along with Given, Friedel is probably the best/most consistent Premiership keeper of the current millenium and deserves to keep his place. Liverpool fans will no doubt proffer Reina, and there is Cech at Cheslea too, but the former two were doing it in the early part of the century before they arrived and there have been some chinks in his armour of late too.
-At 41, he is already in the twilight of his career so AVB's "project" has to include planning for life without him
-Lloris is a decent keeper and still fairly young for a keeper, he would make a good replacement for Friedel when he is no longer up to the task.
-I think Lloris has been bought because AVB (or Levy, whatever) has identified him as the future of Tottenham goalkeeping, they wanted to snap him up before someone else got him
-Cudicini is a good backup keeper to have but getting old with questionable injury record and with LLoris' arrival you'd have to question what he is still doing there. I suspect he probably earns a decent salary and other clubs are reluctant to match it.
-Gomes is finished after the high-profile blunders of a couple of years ago. Simply not good enough and very surprised he didn't leave the club in the summer to go and get games somewhere abroad. Again could be an issue with his wage demands as he was at one stage the #1 keeper for a club challenging for european positions.

Perhaps the real question, is whether Lloris was misled in any way as to his role at Spurs this season. Perhaps he took the assumption, which may be arrogant but perhaps understandable, that his reputation and ability would warrant him being #1 wherever he went and never bothered to actually ask the question in negotations "Do you plan on starting me?". With the deadline approaching and the agent desperate to get his bonus, the bright lights of london and shiny pound coins took over.
 
what worries me, is that if we give lloris a shot today and he makes a howler, he's going to go the same way as gomes and we'd be in worse position. would we stick with him the next game or bring friedel back, unsettling lloris, destroying his confidence more and him wanting out?

it's not a good situation to be in. i would have preferred we used the funds we spent on lloris to go the extra mile to capture moutinho. would have made so much more sense.
 
Lazio mid-week would be an ideal debut for Lloris, then there is the League cup after that, if he performs well then you could argue he should stay as number one, as he is the future. But consistent as Brad has been, and he hardly ever makes a howler he does have his limitations. He struggles with the ball at his feet and his distribution isn't the best when we want to play from the back. But his main fault is that he is rooted to his line when the ball in the box, and it cost us against West Brom for their equaliser.
 
i know all keepers do, it's just shipped us a lot of goals.

i think friedel is great, he knows how lucky he is and he's a great character with the right kind of attitude. that's why keepers like de gea look up to him :)
 
guyfawkes5 said:
Isn't that hypothetical exactly what happened to Rafa with Alonso?
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No :confused:

Benitez was willing to sell Alonso in order to fund other deals - Alonso was then sold a year later and a replacement was signed. Rodgers on the other hand agreed to let Carroll go on the basis that another player was brought in and for one reason or another, that player wasn't brought in.
 
BaZ87 said:
No :confused:

Benitez was willing to sell Alonso in order to fund other deals - Alonso was then sold a year later and a replacement was signed. Rodgers on the other hand agreed to let Carroll go on the basis that another player was brought in and for one reason or another, that player wasn't brought in.
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Benitez wasn't willing to sell Alonso, Hicks and The Best A Man Get told him if he sold Alonso he'd get the money back to replace him, Rafa sold, asked for the money, owners told him 'don't tell me how to run my club' or something similar, Rafa is hung by the Anfield faithful.

Would link to pieces on this but I'm on a mobile.
 
guyfawkes5 said:
Benitez wasn't willing to sell Alonso, Hicks and The Best A Man Get told him if he sold Alonso he'd get the money back to replace him, Rafa sold, asked for the money, owners told him 'don't tell me how to run my club' or something similar, Rafa is hung by the Anfield faithful.

Would link to pieces on this but I'm on a mobile.
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You're confusing separate things and it still doesn't compare to the hypothetical situation I put forward regarding Rodgers and our lack of strikers this season.

Benitez would have let Alonso go in the summer of 2008 had a big enough bid come in. A year later Alonso was then sold to Real and Aquilani was signed to replace him - we weren't left short in midfield at all let alone because of a failure to sign a replacement, which was the situation with Carroll this summer.

Regarding the changing finances that summer - that's more or less true. Benitez was told he had £20m to spend + the £16m from Keane (sold in January) + that summers sales. We'd signed Johnson for a touch more than we got for Keane so even after signing Aquilani, we still should have had around £30m to spend but suddenly that disappeared. I mentioned that summer that we started the window bidding for Tevez and David Silva and ended it not being able to afford Upson and having to swap a promising youngster (albeit on loan) to be able to sign Soto. I believe Benitez mentions that we'd lined up Jovetic + Upson as the two players we were going to sign with that £30m or so.
 
Our team today is: Friedel, Walker, Gallas, Vertonghen, Naughton, Sandro, Dembele, Sigurdsson, Bale, Lennon and Defoe

Our subs: Lloris, Caulker, Dawson, Huddlestone, Townsend, Adebayor and Dempsey

can't wait to see sandro and dembele!
 
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