Then he dived, whether it was a foul or not. 'Going down easily' is just another way of saying diving.
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Then he dived, whether it was a foul or not. 'Going down easily' is just another way of saying diving.
A dive isn't when you could at least attempt to stay on your feet lol?
If someone impedes you enough that stops you from achieving what you are trying through illegal contact fall the **** over or leave a leg in if they are dumb enough to do that.
Park did it against us in 09 at OT and it seemed perfectly fine
If someone impedes you enough that stops you from achieving what you are trying through illegal contact fall the **** over or leave a leg in if they are dumb enough to do that.
Park did it against us in 09 at OT and it seemed perfectly fine
The same thing applies to all of those Gareth Bale and Ashley Young dives that the Liverpool fans on here are so quick to condemn. Anticipating the foul and going down anyway is not the same as actually being fouled and going down.
Contact that impedes you and jumping past something that isn't touching you aren't the same thing. Also Gareth Bale has some what of an argument if I agreed with you, Young doesn't, he is just a terrible diver like Drogba
Thought Suarez dived at first but Guzan does clip him, and he himself realised it was foolish to rush out like that. Wouldn't have a problem with a Newcastle player going down there.
Comparing it to an Ashley Young dive is a step too far, he takes it to a whole 'nother level.
Comparing it to an Ashley Young dive is a step too far, he takes it to a whole 'nother level.
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There is so much confusion on what is a penalty. TPTB need to start helping the referees out.
It was a dive and thus "cheating. However I think the entire rule needs looking at. Clarify that any physical contact that impeded the player (beyond your standard arm to arm etc contact) whilst you have the ball gives the player license to do a standard "dive" / "appeal". Then a player would be free to use this license or not. The referee then gives the penalty if he agrees, if he is sure the dive did not meet the above criteria - no penalty or on field card is issued. The incident would then be looked at every time post game and any punishment needed is then given. This issue needs that level of scrutiny, with offenders always punished. It's the only way players will stop it. You can't leave it to the referees. It's too big an ask for him to be sure when calling a player a cheat. The FA have the personnel. Just re-task the dubious goal committee :s
This approach would take away the issue of "did he need to go down" by making the dive an acceptable act at times
Also, since when did an opposition player having his foot in your path give you the license to dive over it and win the penalty? Is that in the rules? MOTD seemed to think it was but made a distinction between choosing to dive over it or allowing the contact to come. Surely they are both acts to illustrate that the opponent is unfairly stopping your run.
But again, I doubt this is covered in any law book and you hear different interpretations from one pundit to the next.
But what hope is there when you hear commentators praising a referee for not awarding a clear yellow because this mistake was "consistent" with the disregard to the rules of game he had shown all match.
It was a dive and thus "cheating. However I think the entire rule needs looking at. Clarify that any physical contact that impeded the player (beyond your standard arm to arm etc contact) whilst you have the ball gives the player license to do a standard "dive" / "appeal". Then a player would be free to use this license or not. The referee then gives the penalty if he agrees, if he is sure the dive did not meet the above criteria - no penalty or on field card is issued. The incident would then be looked at every time post game and any punishment needed is then given. This issue needs that level of scrutiny, with offenders always punished. It's the only way players will stop it. You can't leave it to the referees. It's too big an ask for him to be sure when calling a player a cheat. The FA have the personnel. Just re-task the dubious goal committee :s
This approach would take away the issue of "did he need to go down" by making the dive an acceptable act at times
Also, since when did an opposition player having his foot in your path give you the license to dive over it and win the penalty? Is that in the rules? MOTD seemed to think it was but made a distinction between choosing to dive over it or allowing the contact to come. Surely they are both acts to illustrate that the opponent is unfairly stopping your run.
But again, I doubt this is covered in any law book and you hear different interpretations from one pundit to the next.
But what hope is there when you hear commentators praising a referee for not awarding a clear yellow because this mistake was "consistent" with the disregard to the rules of game he had shown all match.
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Guzan's knee goes ontop of Suarez foot, it's a pen.
Whether that particular incident was a genuine penalty or not, he has a well earned reputation for being a cheating, diving ****.
He's like the boy who cried wolf - even when it is a foul no one will believe him. That's why it's so funny when Liverpool fans cry that he's never given anything.
Maybe if he wasn't such a **** and focused on his football (which is amazing) he wouldn't have such a reputation.
70% of MotD viewers thought it was a dive - even in the face of video evidence that shows there was contact, people still think he dived because he's a notorious diver… who would have guessed?
He's like the boy who cried wolf - even when it is a foul no one will believe him. That's why it's so funny when Liverpool fans cry that he's never given anything.
Maybe if he wasn't such a **** and focused on his football (which is amazing) he wouldn't have such a reputation.
70% of MotD viewers thought it was a dive - even in the face of video evidence that shows there was contact, people still think he dived because he's a notorious diver… who would have guessed?
And now you've seen it on Match of the Day?
I disagree some what about motd lot talking nonsense for the cameras. Following the likes of Gary and shearer on twitter it is clear what their opinions are as they don't hold back on there.
Did all those dives involve them actually getting fouled? No, I didn't think so, in which case I'm not sure how that relates to anything I've said.
Didn't watch it, sorry, I've had work to do. Will see it on motd2 I expect!
