We had this exact scenario 11 years ago. Win against Reading and go up. We drew, they went up, we screwed up in the play offs. Getting very nervous. We have the best home form in the league, they have the best away form. ARGH!?!
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We had this exact scenario 11 years ago. Win against Reading and go up. We drew, they went up, we screwed up in the play offs. Getting very nervous. We have the best home form in the league, they have the best away form. ARGH!?!
Play like you did today on a proper pitch (with a half competent ref) you'll have a really good shout at it! Will be an amazing final day of the league season!
Fingers crossed!
Hammo had a good game actually, and was awesome against Peterborough, easily motm. He is the weakest link though I am afraid. God knows what he was doing for the OG today, though I haven't seen a proper replay, and I was siting a long way from it... Looked like a great header!
When the 4th goal went in "we score when we want"
2minutes later "we score where we want"
When the 4th goal went in "we score when we want"
2minutes later "we score where we want"
Haha! Good to know he's gotten a little better after the "HOW DID YOU BREAK HIM" thing earlier in the season
Love own goals that are good finishes though, the Gary Barry one at home to city a few months ago was a quality finish!
Also I love back passes in football! So pleased there was one in the Sunderland game
Love own goals that are good finishes though, the Gary Barry one at home to city a few months ago was a quality finish!
Also I love back passes in football! So pleased there was one in the Sunderland game
LolDM why do I get the idea that if Arsenal were in 5th or 6th it would be all about how the club faces economic dire straits due to looking at losing the CL money and escalating wage bill and it is the start of a massive decline due to Wenger being terribad whereas now they look odds-on for CL qualification it's all about how CL doesn't mean anything at all and Wenger is terribad
Wenger said "we can't complain" in reference to the decision. Personally I thought it was a bit harsh as he slipped which meant his foot slid off the ball into the player. Never mind 20 years ago, even 5 years ago I don't think that would have been a red card.
Anyway hopefully this should mean Podolski or Ox gets a chance in the team, against MU I'd be tempted to go with Walcott through the middle as I think he may get more joy against the centrehalves than Evra.
Worst team I have ever seen live!... The amount of space we were given, and standing off they were doing was unbelievable.
LolDM why do I get the idea that if Arsenal were in 5th or 6th it would be all about how the club faces economic dire straits due to looking at losing the CL money and escalating wage bill and it is the start of a massive decline due to Wenger being terribad whereas now they look odds-on for CL qualification it's all about how CL doesn't mean anything at all and Wenger is terribad
Spot on. He always finds something to moan about. Sometimes it makes sense, other times it's like 'are you ******* kidding me?' Lol. Very negative person. Still enjoy reading his posts now and then though
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LolDM why do I get the idea that if Arsenal were in 5th or 6th it would be all about how the club faces economic dire straits due to looking at losing the CL money and escalating wage bill and it is the start of a massive decline due to Wenger being terribad whereas now they look odds-on for CL qualification it's all about how CL doesn't mean anything at all and Wenger is terribad
Spot on. He always finds something to moan about. Sometimes it makes sense, other times it's like 'are you ******* kidding me?' Lol. Very negative person. Still enjoy reading his posts now and then though
Well that would be true except I said CL was pointless last year and the year before. THere is 0% chance we can win the CL, so I don't care about it, I do laugh that people are so shallow that a tv channel can tell everyone that champions league means everything, therefore not having it is terribad.
Seriously tell me precisely what the champions league does. 10-15mil if you go out at the group stages, 15-25mil if you get a couple rounds further, 30-35mil if you win the thing.
Our stadium income is 100mil a year, our tv money is 70-80mil.... 15mil, wooo, thats make or break, particularly when we spend that much on 3-4 players wages a year, 3-4 players who offer nothing to Arsenal.
A "competant" club also has contracts that mean significant wage reduction on relegation, and a smart club has lower wages when out of the champs league/europa league.
Champions league means NOTHING to Arsenal, to a club with 20mil stadium income a year and 50mil tv money, 15mil is a far greater percentage.
Look at Newcastle, Stoke, Fulham, Everton, almost every single team that gets into Europe does significantly, massively worse, with basically the same squad. Thats natural, we'd have a better chance at winning the CL if we ignored the league, or vice versa, or a better chance at both domestic cups if we weren't in Europe.
Arsenal aren't fighting on ANY fronts except for the top 4, coming 5th, ignoring the Europa league would likely significant increase our chances at the FA cup, joke cup and the league.
Overall though, I don't much care for cups anyway, I want to be entertained, I watch 38 Arsenal league games a year, I'm more interested in watching them play WELL and exciting entertaining football than winning something playing turgid football. My argument above is simply, for fans who care only about silverware, what use is the champions league when we can't win it AND it makes our chances of the other cups worse? Money, which we're told over and over again is massive for a club, when simple maths suggests its a very small amount compared to the league? Wheres the logic, I've put up an argument for ways being out of the champions league can benefit Arsenal, wheres the argument for how it helps.
Guys like Falcao won't join a non champs league club? well ignoring that he left a champs league club(porto) for a non champs league club..... we can't afford a Falcao anyway, the few players who literally wouldn't join a non champs league club... won't join Arsenal anyway.
Fact is dropping out of 4th is the only way Wenger will walk or the board will push him, Wenger is overseeing a year on year worsening of the team, its not massively worse, but its worse. We're also financially very close to making a loss WITH the champs league money, why because Wenger gives Rosicky/Ramsey/Diaby WAY more money than they are worth.
Spurs will spend near enough 60million less than us on wages this year, and they are spending in the 90mil region, what are we getting for that extra money? That extra money is almost entirely out of Arsenal fans pockets.
So again, where is the argument that champs league means anything. The whole team will walk without champs league football? Well, most of the team won't because no champs league clubs will want any, and secondly, with champs league football all our best players walked anyway. INability to attract champs league quality players? Our best players in the past 15 years were the likes of Henry, Fabregas, RVP, Wilshire, none of whom were overly expensive, regarded as world talents, nor had the reputation that meant they could go where they wanted, Arsenal don't buy guys who can demand champs league football NOW, so what difference does not being in the champs league make?
Right so today, please Liverpool do over Chelsea please. Also hoping that City get a result against Spurs today.
If both happen then ill be a happy camper...need to open up a gap as i cant see us getting anything against Utd next weekend.
If both happen then ill be a happy camper...need to open up a gap as i cant see us getting anything against Utd next weekend.
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