Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [23 - 25th November 2013]

NeedAUsername said:
With headers it more difficult to hit them in a certain position that close to the net.
Allen not passing it to Suarez for a tap in was the worst mistake for a goal scoring opportunity in that game.
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Not at all, Everton's Spanish youngster crossing instead of shooting near the end, there was another much earlier in the game not going round Mignolet as well just as bad

Edit - meaning he should have crossed rather than the tight shot right at Mignolet right at the end.
 
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Purdy said:
Everton seem a much more fun team to play against now that Moyes is gone.
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I haven't seen the game yet as I was on nights last night so will reserve judgement on this game but I would say I was wrong.

I was worried when Moyes went about how things would go under martinez. I think now it looks like a change from moyes was long overdue for both him and us. He had the easiest job in EPL football. No one expected anything and if we finished 17th he wouldn't get the sack.

He would have approached todays game with the mindset of just not getting beat. Don't get me wrong without him we would be going through the same hell Leeds have had to try to get over but it's pretty obvious now Martinez was a fresh outlook we needed.
 
Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil, Cazorla, Giroud

Subs: Fabianski, Vermaelen, Monreal, Rosicky, Walcott, Gnabry, Bendtner

Southampton: Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Hooiveld, Shaw, Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Lallana (c), Rodriguez, Lambert.

Subs: Gazzaniga (GK), Yoshida, S. Davis, Osvaldo, Chambers, Reed, Gallagher.
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NeedAUsername said:
So Newcastle are a great team now?
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They were epic two years ago because they fielded an almost completely unchanged team for a long portion of the year, then made small changes with everyone in form and playing well so the new players in the team could play well.

Last year, EVERYONE got injured, or near enough, there was no consistency and they had 7-8 extra european games up to xmas, which is only a few less than the league. Massive injury crisis plus 50% more games in a few months = the team fell apart. Sometimes teams get hit by massive injuries, smaller teams with less deep squads will always suffer incredibly badly due to that.

There is no team on earth that could cope with the constant in and out nature of the first team last year. Would all have been as bad, maybe not, there isn't a team that wouldn't have tanked down the table though.

I said before last year started that euro games would effect them, I said when injuries started it would be even worse, and I said before the start of last season that they'd yo-yo, without European football this year, they have less games, less injuries, and can play a team more consistently and as such will do better than last year.


EDIT:- I'm not saying Pardew is brilliant, nor that Newcastle are excellent, nor will obviously win today or finish top half. But last years poor form was clearly explainable and such a complete break down of team due to injuries rarely happens and when it does it usually destroys a team. West Ham finished, what 7th, 6th maybe, under Zola, were actually brilliant to watch, very attacking, played a great style of football. The parallels are obvious, they fielded a very unchanged team all year, everyone was playing at their best. The following year they had a horrible horrible run of injuries with effectively, just like Newcastle, 1/3rd of the squad missing say half the season, another 1/2 the squad picking up a couple injuries for a couple weeks out here and there, and a highly changed team all year long. Even when their guys who had been brilliant the year before came back, the team was now out of form, constantly changing and even those uninjured were playing poorly as a result.

The few other teams having that many first team players out for significant portions of the year all end up going the same way. Newcastle looked poor for quite a few games but the increase in form, quality of guys like Tiote/Cabaye and the simple organisation to the defence that all brings is painfully obvious.
 
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I'll never understand this. Here I am in the States watching my favourite team (Arsenal) on Live HD TV the Saturday 3pm game (or choice of other games for that matter). Yet when I lived in England, no matter how many subscriptions I could pay for, I could never watch this game.
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