Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [30th Dec 2011 - 4th Jan 2012]

Mekrel said:
Nani was absolutely awful today.

ESPN overlay came up during the game with a very interesting fact on Nani's crossing, with him having 21% cross competition. His massive ego that is present in majority of games was on show today, constantly trying to beat Blackburn's left back by simply knocking the ball 20 yards ahead and trying to out pace Henley and failing.

Even from a stand still, he tried to beat his man, miss-controlled and put the ball out for a Blackburn goal kick. Then there was the free kick which he pretty much passed to a Blackburn player....

Valencia and Berbatov were probably the only players putting in a decent performance today.
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http://www.eplindex.com/everton-midfield-dissected/

I was looking for a comparison someone did last year of left backs which had crossing completion, that will do though, basically 21% isn't woeful by any means, its not brilliant, its merely an average game, maybe below average for Nani of late.

Players rarely get high cross completion rates.

he had an off game, all players do, however, berating him for trying to create is daft. Here's a hint, someone who doesn't even try to beat his man or cross, won't get a successfull cross or an assist, or a goal, someone who tries, at least has a chance. Players who aren't afraid of looking like idiots when they make mistakes against fans who will rip into a player after a single poor performance are few and far between.

Arshavin was actually in excellent form before xmas last season, and some people randomly, and incorrectly started calling him crap and within a few weeks everyone was saying it, his confidence was gone he did stop playing as well, Wenger dropped him and without any consistent games he can't get his confidence back.

Nani wasn't great today, he wasn't poor and wasn't the reason they lost.

The overall feel I got from Utd in general, including Nani is "we're back to our best after thrashing a few crap teams, its Blackburn we can showboat from the start, it will be easy".

The free kicks from Nani showed that, he didn't do them on his own, they were trying training ground fancy freekicks before they had won the game because they assumed they were going to win easily. Most of the team played like it was a foregone conclusion and the only two maybe who didn't were Berbatov and Valencia.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
I was talking about Young, I was saying thanks for signing him as he is awful. Bar one exhibition game v Arsenal he has never done anything. Only watched the games on ESPN and the motd so maybe its harsh.

Besides, I don't ever remember us being linked to him anyway...however he probably said in the interview when he signed after a talk with utd PR.
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I wish I could argue with you but I really can't as you're bang on, bar the Arsenal game Young has been crap/awful.
 
West Brom: Foster, Jones, Shorey, McAuley, Dawson, Brunt, Scharner, Morrison, Thomas, Odemwingie, Long.

Subs: Fulop, Tchoyi, Cox, Dorrans, Thorne, Fortune, Jara Reyes.


Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Distin, Jagielka, Baines, Rodwell, Neville, Heitinga, Osman, Cahill, Saha.

Subs: Mucha, Gueye, McFadden, Bilyaletdinov, Stracqualursi, Barkley, Anichebe.


Oh and I'm first on BBC Live Stream

Everton fan Azza_M on Twitter: "Re 1202. Horrible year, Moyes has no money and from today's line up he's running out of ideas. Depressing!"
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Wooooooooooo :D
 
drunkenmaster said:
http://www.eplindex.com/everton-midfield-dissected/

I was looking for a comparison someone did last year of left backs which had crossing completion, that will do though, basically 21% isn't woeful by any means, its not brilliant, its merely an average game, maybe below average for Nani of late.

Players rarely get high cross completion rates.

he had an off game, all players do, however, berating him for trying to create is daft. Here's a hint, someone who doesn't even try to beat his man or cross, won't get a successfull cross or an assist, or a goal, someone who tries, at least has a chance. Players who aren't afraid of looking like idiots when they make mistakes against fans who will rip into a player after a single poor performance are few and far between.

Arshavin was actually in excellent form before xmas last season, and some people randomly, and incorrectly started calling him crap and within a few weeks everyone was saying it, his confidence was gone he did stop playing as well, Wenger dropped him and without any consistent games he can't get his confidence back.

Nani wasn't great today, he wasn't poor and wasn't the reason they lost.

The overall feel I got from Utd in general, including Nani is "we're back to our best after thrashing a few crap teams, its Blackburn we can showboat from the start, it will be easy".

The free kicks from Nani showed that, he didn't do them on his own, they were trying training ground fancy freekicks before they had won the game because they assumed they were going to win easily. Most of the team played like it was a foregone conclusion and the only two maybe who didn't were Berbatov and Valencia.
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He's not the reason we lost, no; but it's still frustrating to see his arrogance showing whilst he's having a poor game. The guy has a massive "N" shaved into the side of his head for God's sake :p

It's all well and good trying to be creative and taking on your man but it was clear from the start that he wasn't simply having the better of Henley but, add to that he wasn't even getting the simple stuff right.

We're 2-0 and 2-1 down and he's taking pop shots from 20+ yards and only once did he get one on target.

I think you're allowed to be critical of a player if they have a bad game, especially if they have Nani's ability and pay packet. It would be daft to say he was the reason why we lost or that he shouldn't be in the starting 11, but I would never suggest such a thing.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I actually thought the game had finished 1-0, unlucky, though YAY Brentford, they also scored in extra time, came back from 3-0 down to draw, awesome.
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Not just football-related, but the equaliser was definitely my best moment of 2011. When the first went in I went mental, the second goal saw me lose my voice and the third resulted in an odd squeaking noice coming from me - I was completely speechless.

:D
 
Sunderland v Man City line-ups

Sunderland: Mignolet, Gardner, O'Shea, Brown, Colback, McClean, Cattermole, Vaughan, Larsson, Bendtner, Sessegnon.
Subs: Carson, Kilgallon, Elmohamady, Ji, Meyler, Noble, Laing.

Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Kolarov, Johnson, De Jong, Toure Yaya, Barry, Nasri, Dzeko.
Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Clichy, Savic, Milner, Silva, Aguero.

Referee: Kevin Friend (Leicestershire)

No Balotelli :( was looking forward to some new year madness from him
 
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Same old argument again, Yaya is not a defensive mid and nor is Barry if you have watched any games this year. With us playing Liverpool in less than 48 hrs we cant play the same players every game so the likes of Milner, Silva and so on need to be rested as they are more important for the game v Liverpool.
 
Nani had an off game with his shooting and crossing for sure. Ecven his free kicks were awful.

At the end of the day, cross completion is going to be low when you dont have a proper target man who is going to beat defenders to win the header. Especially against Samba and Co in the blackburn defence.

What we dont have is a battering ram to use against these tall defences..
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
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Same old argument again, Yaya is not a defensive mid and nor is Barry if you have watched any games this year. With us playing Liverpool in less than 48 hrs we cant play the same players every game so the likes of Milner, Silva and so on need to be rested as they are more important for the game v Liverpool.
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Is Barry an attacking midfielder? :eek:
 
Barry is defensive. He simply is. Yaya is box to box but only because you dominate teams so much he can afford to be.
 
The Running Man said:
Nani had an off game with his shooting and crossing for sure. Ecven his free kicks were awful.

At the end of the day, cross completion is going to be low when you dont have a proper target man who is going to beat defenders to win the header. Especially against Samba and Co in the blackburn defence.

What we dont have is a battering ram to use against these tall defences..
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We don't need a "battering ram", we need technically capable players who can break down defences without constantly resorting to passing it wide for someone to cross it in.
 
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