Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [6th - 7th October 2012]
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As said previously, if wasn't such a diving little **** perhaps he would get a decision every now and then.
Its not that hard to stop yourself falling over either - but Suarez certainly does that a lot, maybe he hasnt learnt how to walk properly yet
Im sure your ancient history keeps you warm at night when you are averaging less than 1pt a game this season
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Its not that hard to stop yourself falling over either - but Suarez certainly does that a lot, maybe he hasnt learnt how to walk properly yet
Im sure your ancient history keeps you warm at night when you are averaging less than 1pt a game this season
Suarez does fall over a lot, your correct, as a Liverpool fan its frustrating to see....
The problem is....so does Bale, Welbeck, Young, Kagawa, Ivanovic, Hazard, Gerrard, Rooney, Oscar etc etc.
Bale did a wonderful swan dive yesterday but people seem to have forgotten all about that and are jumping on the Suarez bandwagon.
Bales dive :
http://i.minus.com/iI04qBVyEBQp2.gif
Lets also not forget some wonderful challenges this weekend on Suarez (the stamp especially) the two footer on Raheem Sterling, the elbow from Van Persie, the shocker from Tiote, lets forget these acts of cheating and concentrate on Luis Suarez and a admittedly pathetic dive because lets face it, everyone hates a diver.
Bale is an interesting one. He has admitted he goes down easily in two circumstances
1) when there is contact and he is in a game where he is being consistently fouled to stop him playing
2) when he is in full flight he falls over easily in order to protect himself from injury I.e. contact is minimised if he dives over the leg rather than runs through it.
Yesterday was an example of the latter. The angle from behind shows the huge flinch he does in anticipation of a 6ft goalie barrelling towards him in an attempt not to get floored. Additionally, he didn't get up demanding a foul or look for a free kick.
Whether you accept that he should be allowed to take a tumble in order to minimize contact when he is sprinting is up to each individual.
I see Bale going over easily but he doesn't do it in the box and he is generally smashed about a fair bit. He also doesn't role around unless he is hurt. I personally completely accept his right to protect himself from a high speed impact which could really hurt him .
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Ah the old 'but, but other players do it WAH' defense.
Those other players don't do it nearly as often as Suarez (well perhaps Bale and Young but they get plenty of abuse when they do it as well), Welbeck I can only think of one and Kagawa I don't remember diving in a United shirt
Those other players don't do it nearly as often as Suarez (well perhaps Bale and Young but they get plenty of abuse when they do it as well), Welbeck I can only think of one and Kagawa I don't remember diving in a United shirt
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The hell with international breaks. Whos up to start a petition?
I swear to god if RVP gets a knock in his match I'll have a stroke.
I swear to god if RVP gets a knock in his match I'll have a stroke.
An honourable mention to Jenkinson too, I forgot about this beauty last week
As a spurs fan I hate seeing our players dive, the Bale one is just an embarrassment....
There you go Liverpool fans...thats how you do it.
IMO the reason Suarez gets "picked" on....is that he is an "obvious" cheat, hand ball on the line, waving imaginary yellow cards and diving about all over the place....he is an easy target...who's fault is that?......oh...his own.
There you go Liverpool fans...thats how you do it.
IMO the reason Suarez gets "picked" on....is that he is an "obvious" cheat, hand ball on the line, waving imaginary yellow cards and diving about all over the place....he is an easy target...who's fault is that?......oh...his own.
At first i hated Suarez dives but i am beginning to like them because first no ref is going to award a pen to us even when its a foul. Secondly they seem to annoy the hell out of many Lfc haters at the moment and i enjoy them seeing the mourn over his dives. Get used to it
The only way to get diving out of the game is for refs to start acting professionally and earning their money. For heavens sake the ref is their to see mistakes and give an appropriate punishment not to listen to players surrounding him. He should pass judgement based on what they are seeing but not on what they hear or saw in the previous games.
The only way to get diving out of the game is for refs to start acting professionally and earning their money. For heavens sake the ref is their to see mistakes and give an appropriate punishment not to listen to players surrounding him. He should pass judgement based on what they are seeing but not on what they hear or saw in the previous games.
Im going to quote part of your original post.
"Get used to it"
That's human nature I'm afraid! Refs are not robots and until that day Suarez is going to be tarred with the brush he painted himself with.
I had/have absolutely zero sympathy for Suarez when Huth stood on him. When I saw it my first reaction was that he was play acting as usual, until I saw the stud mark. It was actually pretty funny, especially considering his dive later in the game. I hope people keep doing that sort of thing to him in fact, maybe it'll encourage him to reduce his cheating.
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The problem is, Suarez dives every game, I didn't bother to mention it but before the Suarez should have had a penalty incident against Norwich there was a GOOD tackle where Suarez somehow, with contact but a clean tackle, launched himself what appeared at first to be about 60 ft in the air, before crashing down and then complaining his face off.
Seriously, he complains so much even his teeth can't take it so are trying to escape
Dive, dive, dive, actually fouled but still make a meal of it and try to make it look worse, dive dive dive. Most games and the talking point is usually the "how can the ref not give that foul" crap.... because Suarez makes it impossible.
I think I said before the start of last season, after a half season of diving, poor finishing, controversy and complaining, Suarez may be good, in parts of his game, but is he worth keeping. Answer is, no, he's selfish but doesn't have the finishing ability of Messi/Ronaldo to go with it. If you can't hit a barn door most games, pass the ruddy ball more. I'd have taken the circa 30mil you could probably have gotten for him and bought an actual striker, then bought a winger/creative midfielder who could provide chances.
There are a bunch of players out there who are highly rated but never really have epic seasons(beyond the hype), guys who aren't midfielders, don't work hard enough or defend really, nor create enough chances, aren't really strikers, because their finishing is meh at best and aren't really wingers.
They just don't fit in teams, Liverpool WOULD be better with no Suarez, a real striker and a real winger. VDV, Sneijder, several others who kinda sit between striker and midfielder, are incredibly inconsistent, never come close to a top strikers goal scoring rate, ever, don't get many assists, spend half the games of a season completely ineffective.
Seriously, he complains so much even his teeth can't take it so are trying to escape
Dive, dive, dive, actually fouled but still make a meal of it and try to make it look worse, dive dive dive. Most games and the talking point is usually the "how can the ref not give that foul" crap.... because Suarez makes it impossible.
I think I said before the start of last season, after a half season of diving, poor finishing, controversy and complaining, Suarez may be good, in parts of his game, but is he worth keeping. Answer is, no, he's selfish but doesn't have the finishing ability of Messi/Ronaldo to go with it. If you can't hit a barn door most games, pass the ruddy ball more. I'd have taken the circa 30mil you could probably have gotten for him and bought an actual striker, then bought a winger/creative midfielder who could provide chances.
There are a bunch of players out there who are highly rated but never really have epic seasons(beyond the hype), guys who aren't midfielders, don't work hard enough or defend really, nor create enough chances, aren't really strikers, because their finishing is meh at best and aren't really wingers.
They just don't fit in teams, Liverpool WOULD be better with no Suarez, a real striker and a real winger. VDV, Sneijder, several others who kinda sit between striker and midfielder, are incredibly inconsistent, never come close to a top strikers goal scoring rate, ever, don't get many assists, spend half the games of a season completely ineffective.
An honourable mention to Jenkinson too, I forgot about this beauty last week
Surely that's proof enough it's dirty forgeniers not good old English players doing it..
Errr, Arsenal 5 Spurs 2. Bale Dived in the box then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17093405
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Its not that hard to stop yourself falling over either - but Suarez certainly does that a lot, maybe he hasnt learnt how to walk properly yet
As far as I'm aware diving =/= standing on someone on purpose, already said how embarrassing his dive was
Seems it's alright to revel in players being assaulted now, wonder how a deserves it will go down if rvp gets a double leg break
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