Is David not an expert in his field?
Greta jumps on bandwagons and keeps being professionally arrested. Viz recent palestinian demonstrations.
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Is David not an expert in his field?
Greta jumps on bandwagons and keeps being professionally arrested. Viz recent palestinian demonstrations.
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I never read that one.... was that before or after Rodger Mellie?
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I never read that one.... was that before or after Rodger Mellie?
Greta Thunberg carried away by police at pro-Palestine demonstration, again
The protest called for Stockholm University to sever its ties with Israeli institutions.
www.politico.eu
Her biggest moment was that stupid rant, the other showings have been none events and most don't even make the papers anymore. Now she just shows up to random, off-topic protests, poses for photos and gets sent home like a naughty kid. This path doesn't lead anywhere and she'll be forgotten by the time she hits 30.
She had the opportunity and blew it. She was young, but her handlers should have had a better strategy.
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This nonsense keeps getting rolled out.
If you watch her documentary it was all her with her long suffering Dad trying to talk her out of things but with her being autistic he couldn't.
Later on way after the rant some known people were trying to align themselves with her but her agenda has always been 'listen to the experts'.
BTW I'm not a fan of Greta and I'm not clever enough to know if climate change is being helped along by man.
What I do know is that something is definitely getting worse with the climate but is that because the Earth goes through cycles?
No idea, it's not my subject.
Yea right, you don't get to go up on stage and speak at a international summits full of world leaders without being well connected. Or managed/sponsored by someone who is.
Actually...you don't even get to go inside without being well connected, or press. Or the entertainment...
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They haven't shown it thus far.
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if you watch the documentary it was her Striking For Schools (?) and it just took off and atmospheric where they couldn't ignore what all the young people were doing.
Get her on, let her talk, take no notice which is what I would have done
However I haven't allowed her to trigger me like it has a lot of middle aged men.
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if you watch the documentary it was her Striking For Schools (?) and it just took off and atmospheric where they couldn't ignore what all the young people were doing.
Get her on, let her talk, take no notice which is what I would have done
However I haven't allowed her to trigger me like it has a lot of middle aged men.
Not triggered, more annoyed that she had a chance to force change but completely blew it and now leaders can safely ignore the issues again. She is now mostly found being carried away from un-related protests to try and stay in the news. Which she has made millions out of btw.
Maybe she was unlucky with being born in to Gen Z.
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the earth and climate does go on cycles that much is true. also life is pretty amazing and can adapt very well to most of what nature can throw at it...
all this CO2 going into the atmosphere has been there once before and what ever climatic events happen it won't be the 1st time.
the problem is what naturally occurs happens over 10,000s of years where as the CO2 we have dumped back into it over the last century had been locked away for millions of years. the climate is changing and it would appear (according to experts whom I am not one of) it's happing way way faster than it would happen in any natural cycle.
technology will likely help us survive to a point but it's too fast for us to adapt as a species.
am pretty sure I read one paper a few years back that said we are technically in a cooling cycle but we are not seeing it
...had we of been in a warming cycle it would have been game over all ready.
shes a grifter, there's photo of her car in america full of plastic bottles and fast food packaging
the climates never been stable, we were exiting an ice age according to schools in the 80s and 90s
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We're technically still in an ice age, as parts of the earth are permanently covered in ice (the quaternary ice age, began about 2.5m years ago).
The earth does have periods where it's not in an ice age at all (no ice even at the poles), it will happen again eventually regardless of any human intervention.
You better write up your findings and get them published then otherwise people might just suspect you are clueless.
Those findings have been published for a very long time, how about you go educate yourself, otherwise people might just suspect you are clueless.
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The climate is changing rapidly because we have taken all the carbon that has been locked away by natural processes over millions and millions of years, and dug it up and burned it, releasing it as carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, which warms the atmosphere.
This is 100% settled scientific fact. It is no more up for debate than gravity, or the earth being round. Anyone suggesting otherwise is lying to you.
The 'argument' now is whether we should be concerned about it, or just let the planet warm up and pray we can deal with the consequences, or use our technology to create a cleaner, sustainable environment for us to live in.
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If you are looking for a stasis where CO2 in the atmosphere changes little and the ice locked up at the poles changes little, the only significant changes are not sea levels but the number of humans populating the planet, you will be disappointed.
The CO2 is increasing, the ice diminshing, human activity is increasing and sea levels are rising. Humanity can adapt but a few countries stopping using oil and building solar arrays and wind turbines will not do much in the face of natural changes coming down the pipeline. It ultimately will be forced upon us to adapt as it was the giant lizards.
To @SexyGreyFox she has an undoubtedly button nosed Swedish cuteness like Agnetha Faltskog however she would be too loud and excitable to my taste.
The CO2 is increasing, the ice diminshing, human activity is increasing and sea levels are rising. Humanity can adapt but a few countries stopping using oil and building solar arrays and wind turbines will not do much in the face of natural changes coming down the pipeline. It ultimately will be forced upon us to adapt as it was the giant lizards.
To @SexyGreyFox she has an undoubtedly button nosed Swedish cuteness like Agnetha Faltskog however she would be too loud and excitable to my taste.
This is the problem with climate change. There is just enough for people to cling on to in order to talk rubbish about it. I am not accusing you of this but the "earth goes through cycles" is a common argument against climate change. It does indeed...over huge periods of time barring some sort of massive external factor changing that. Things like a massive asteroid hitting the earth or humans unlocking vast amounts of CO2 and other gasses through burning vast amounts of fossil fuels, cutting down vast swathes of forest, killing the oceans etc.
Its not up for debate. Humans are driving climate change. What the ultimate outcome of this will be is the only thing up for debate. The world has millions of systems that all influence each other to varying degrees. Those systems are changing due to climate change and we simply don't know and what point all hell will break loose. Sensible people tend to work on the basis that we don't want to find out so we should probably try and stop it from happening.
Perhaps the fact that most of the people shouting loudest about climate change being BS are either complete idiots or have a massive vested interest in contributing to it should tell you that they aren't the people to listen to.
Climate scientists aren't exactly in a lucrative field. There isn't much money in it. They aren't pulling the wool over our eyes for the sake of their own pockets. Its going to get real messy over the next few decades if we don't sort it out. Lot of people are going to be on the move to escape the weather.
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In the 35 years since the first report by the IPCC (1990) our global annual emissions of CO2 have gone up by 60%. During a time when we could no longer plead ignorance we did more damage to the climate than during the entire prior history of humanity!
For 2.5 million years the Carbon Cycle kept the atmospheric CO2 concentration on Earth between about 180 and 280 ppm (cool and warm periods, respectively). Over the last 17,500 years (warming period from the last Glacial Maximum) up to around 140 years ago it had increased to around 280 ppm, but we've caused a greater increase, to 424.3 ppm (average for 2024), than that in just the last 140 years (due to continuously rising CO2 emissions from burning fossil fuels). The atmospheric CO2 concentration has not been higher than this in the last 14 million years.
When CO2 went from 180 to 280 ppm over 17,500 years the global temperature gradually increased by around 7 degrees Celsius and sea levels rose by over 100 meters (hence the submerging of Doggerland in the North Sea and the expansion of the Black Sea). Here’s a graph of the last 23,000 years of global temperature and CO2 concentration (so you can check the data above yourself).
I’m about a decade past having a hopeful message on global warming. I don’t think this will end well because we now have the choice of a bad future, or a really bad one, and many selfish people appear to be deliberately choosing the latter because all they really care about is money.
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GIBURROWS confidently posting about climate change whilst clearly knowing nothing about the subject is one of my favourite OCUK sub genres.
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