Greta Thunberg

BowdonUK said:
Now repeat after me ... "its for the children".

This is the problem with grown adults using a child to push a cause. As soon as people start disagreeing with the child, said adults start hiding behind the child shouting "why are they attacking the child, they must be evil".

I acknowledge that some people go to far in their personal criticism of Greta herself. But this was to be entirely expected, and its something her parents should have shielded her from. It's pathetic parenting, and bizarre how blind some people are to this. You really think pushing a child forward is a serious way to talk about climate change? The whole issue as become a farce, well done.
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This is only your view, but could also be that this child has moved forward on her own (though impossible to know how much others are having an influence on her now; so it goes in to being "unknown"); it is only our opinion on what could be the issue here, but regardless I still stay with my original condemnation on the verbal/written attacks on this girl in general, but I would like to think that such attacks from more influential individuals will be more restrained.
 
Acme said:
I think Clarkson summed it up well. The people who have the power to deal with these issues are already aware of them and are already trying to deal with them, and if she wants to make a difference she should put a sock in it, go back to school, and train to be a scientist.
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That is the institutionalized view and very dangerous, Why do you need to spend a fortune going into debt for some useless degree in a mostly left wing infested enviroment just to be heard? I really get triggered by institutionalized things like when my landlord many years ago demanded i get photo id and prove my indentity lol and we had to have a chat about the rabbit hole these views lead down, For me that place is a totalarian place devoid of free thinking because only those with titles and degrees get to be heard.

She is right on growth i said this before in one of my posts, Economic growth is a problem especially for Europe because how do you keep growing eventually everything must even out or even shrink to get the population down a bit. But that is called this scary word called recession. If you ask me the growth is a planet eating thing, And its all smoke and mirrors if we are growing so much its based off massive immigration. And even then thier model still fails they have done a lot or damage to the planet, And now they say after Brexit our debt could reach 90% of GDP. In my opinion we are broke, Need to recess a bit and make things a lot nicer cleaner and less populated. Left wing people will never agree with me on this, But im convinced it is the only thing that will work farmland will have to go back to forest to stabilize things and that means less space for farming. Places have to left for wild animals people forget native species and thier habitats have been gone for a very long time.
 
Sod that. Much quicker to have a nuclear holocaust. Cuts all the bs out, no one gets time to think about the how's and when's... In 2500 years time everything will be peachy(ish) again.
 
Both Greta and her parents have been photographed wearing Antifa t-shirts, it's clear that there is a political motivation behind the "climate emergency" movement, at the top at least. Most of those at the bottom just think they're doing a good thing (AKA useful idiots).

I was reading this research document yesterday about Extinction Rebellion mob which pretty much explains that their motivation (again at the top) is a breakdown in society to achieve their own political/societal goals. If they think that they have a mandate to change society towards that of their own ideology then do it democratically, launch a political party and win an election. Rather than underhandedly trying to breakdown/overthrow the established order of liberal democracy under the guise of saving the planet.

https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Extremism-Rebellion.pdf
 
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Old Man said:
This is only your view, but could also be that this child has moved forward on her own (though impossible to know how much others are having an influence on her now; so it goes in to being "unknown"); it is only our opinion on what could be the issue here, but regardless I still stay with my original condemnation on the verbal/written attacks on this girl in general, but I would like to think that such attacks from more influential individuals will be more restrained.
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In todays online 24/7 news society people are going to comment, especially when you're doing something exceptional. The problem is when a person opens that door it can bring in all kinds of comments, people for and against, and people being unrestrained on all sides. Her parents are very tech-savvy from what I've read about them. This climate change issue for Greta isn't (or shouldn't) be her whole life. At some point she's going to get sick of being the mouth piece of the movement, even if she still agrees with it. There are lots of people who get used by others to push forward a cause, and eventually they rebel against the people pushing them forward. Her parents should be more vocal in their views too on the subject, yet we never see them.

After the spotlight as gone from Greta and she looks back at her life, she'll have no qualifications from school and no job. It's sad but I think there is a real danger of this going down a potentially tragic path. Adults need to remember that she is a child, she has her own problems. The entire movement shouldnt be resting on her shoulders.
 
Erm?

Isn't being antifascist a pretty normal stance?
I'm anti-fascist and anti Communist, also anti theology. I'm very Pro freemarket and free love :p

I don't see how that equates to her supporting antifa? Do all the people in Che Guevara T-shirts love Castros old dictatorship are they all paid up members of the communist party?

Could this t shirt just be a t-shirt and frothing retards just seeing what they want?
 
BowdonUK said:
In todays online 24/7 news society people are going to comment, especially when you're doing something exceptional. The problem is when a person opens that door it can bring in all kinds of comments, people for and against, and people being unrestrained on all sides. Her parents are very tech-savvy from what I've read about them. This climate change issue for Greta isn't (or shouldn't) be her whole life. At some point she's going to get sick of being the mouth piece of the movement, even if she still agrees with it. There are lots of people who get used by others to push forward a cause, and eventually they rebel against the people pushing them forward. Her parents should be more vocal in their views too on the subject, yet we never see them.

After the spotlight as gone from Greta and she looks back at her life, she'll have no qualifications from school and no job. It's sad but I think there is a real danger of this going down a potentially tragic path. Adults need to remember that she is a child, she has her own problems. The entire movement shouldnt be resting on her shoulders.
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You can leave school at 16 if you want. There's no inheritance tax in Sweden. She's set for life. Getting some crap media studies degree might be imported in your life, doesn't really matter in reality.
The (social) media pressure will probably drive her to kill herself, yes. Martyr for the cause, you don't want this trust me.
 
Efour said:
Erm?

Isn't being antifascist a pretty normal stance?
I'm anti-fascist and anti Communist, also anti theology. I'm very Pro freemarket and free love :p

I don't see how that equates to her supporting antifa? Do all the people in Che Guevara T-shirts love Castros old dictatorship are they all paid up members of the communist party?

Could this t shirt just be a t-shirt and frothing retards just seeing what they want?
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Its a bit different. Antifa are basically a middle class terrorist organisation. Che Guevara was one guy.
 
Efour said:
You can leave school at 16 if you want. There's no inheritance tax in Sweden. She's set for life. Getting some crap media studies degree might be imported in your life, doesn't really matter in reality.
The (social) media pressure will probably drive her to kill herself, yes. Martyr for the cause, you don't want this trust me.
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Who said anything about media studies, or interitance tax? She hasn't been in school and has no qualifications i.e. the standard qualifications.

I didn't want to use the term martyr. But I suspect if that happens the media will have removed the spotlight from her long ago as they will move on to someone else.
 
Nasher said:
Its a bit different. Antifa are basically a middle class terrorist organisation. Che Guevara was one guy.
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Antifa are basically a joke that have been built by a certain media faction to mean something and be a threat, which they absolutely are not. As you say a bunch of middle class LARPers that can do nothing but shout at old women and make loud noises. They would and will be destroyed if it came down to "it" not that I'm advocating political violence, today.

Che Guevara will be more relevant to history than Greta and antifa combined.
 
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Yep. There are people that don't believe there will be a problem (and, in fairness, we won't know that until it happens, or doesn't, uhm), there are people who won't change while others don't (ie. the aforementioned non-believers), there are those that think it is someone else's problem (Greta's, presumably) because they won't be around to see it, there are those who say they would change but won't (whom you mentioned), and there are some (Greta and her mates) who do/will/have already changed, albeit to different degrees.

In my lifetime there have been many disasters that were known to be possible but were not acted on (roll on roll off ferries, for example). Humans seem prepared to take these risks.

To have the best chance of averting the potential disaster people must only have what they need rather than what they want. And, as you say, it's a leap too far for so many people.
 
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