Greta Thunberg

I think climate is real but I am angered by the support she requires. Her boat captain flew over to America to take her across the Atlantic. There was also no reports on her crew who sailed her over, how did they get home?
It is not as simple as it seems to think so shouting at adults isn't the answer, she needs to be calm and be more environmental.
Andi.
 
stockhausen said:
GUILT!
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This all looks like a religious cult to me.

Besides how would putting co2 in a rocket, blasting it into space hurt the sun ??? I mean seriously. A, we can point it the other way. B, we would only need to achieve orbit. C, it would be short term as hopefully achieve space elevator project.
Malevolence said:
Dumping that much CO2 into space would put the sun out. Then we really would be screwed.
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And the point with milk dumping is more about algae growth throughout the oceans. That is most of the surface.

The real problem is we are overpopulated as a species and have unbalanced everything. We either need to colonize new planets or kill people off in essence. China has the right idea by only allowing 1 child per family. And these religious enviromental cult fanatics have 6 or more i have seen. So work that out. I care about the environment but im going to make 9 more people to add to our species.
 
Has anyone calculated how much greenhouse gas would be created by the cultivation, transportation and planting of a billion trees versus just abandoning land and allowing Nature to do the heavy lifting?
 
nkata said:
Has anyone calculated how much greenhouse gas would be created by the cultivation, transportation and planting of a billion trees versus just abandoning land and allowing Nature to do the heavy lifting?
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In some areas the land is unstable so nature cant do all the work. And trees would need to be planted to help form a foundation for it all to take hold.
That is an interesting question on that and a good point. But then again we are just all looking at our own little countries and land. Need to think bigger.
 
Doesnt answer the question but raises the issue of the alumina in the stratosphere. Which in turn could damage the ozone layer. So we need to find a way of cleaning that bit too.

Maybe some sort of special air intake around the rocket to achieve that.
 
Guest6600 said:
In some areas the land is unstable so nature cant do all the work. And trees would need to be planted to help form a foundation for it all to take hold.
That is an interesting question on that and a good point. But then again we are just all looking at our own little countries and land. Need to think bigger.
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It is often quoted that the beautiful countryside enjoyed in Britain is as a result of farmers. I can readily understand that. However if it was decided to stop grazing on the fells in Northern England, Scotland, Cornwall, all these areas would soon be scrubland, returning to forest over several generations, a process known as 'wilding'. Wild species of animals and birds would proliferate if the areas are sufficiently large and then the rest of the country need worry less about their contribution to climate change.

Sorry sheep farmers, you need to fall on your sword for the sake of the country. :(
 
nkata said:
It is often quoted that the beautiful countryside enjoyed in Britain is as a result of farmers. I can readily understand that. However if it was decided to stop grazing on the fells in Northern England, Scotland, Cornwall.
Sorry sheep farmers, you need to fall on your sword for the sake of the country. :(
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So what about the way the land is in wales. It wont wild in that way and is better off being looked after by the sheep farmers in places like the rhonda valleys
 
Guest6600 said:
This all looks like a religious cult to me.

Besides how would putting co2 in a rocket, blasting it into space hurt the sun ??? I mean seriously. A, we can point it the other way. B, we would only need to achieve orbit. C, it would be short term as hopefully achieve space elevator project.



And the point with milk dumping is more about algae growth throughout the oceans. That is most of the surface.

The real problem is we are overpopulated as a species and have unbalanced everything. We either need to colonize new planets or kill people off in essence. China has the right idea by only allowing 1 child per family. And these religious enviromental cult fanatics have 6 or more i have seen. So work that out. I care about the environment but im going to make 9 more people to add to our species.
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Why am I replying to a bad troll? Anyway returnee6600, if we blast off copious ammounts of C02 away from the earth we would be losing the oxygen that is tied up in the co2. As for algae, I'm sure you know that algae bloom is already a problem, it creates dead spots in the ocean that do not have enough oxygen to support life, because of the bacteria that feeds off the dead algae. Also, china has relaxed the 1 child rule.
 
Guest6600 said:
So what about the way the land is in wales. It wont wild in that way and is better off being looked after by the sheep farmers in places like the rhonda valleys
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Sorry, I missed Wales off the list. Historically Wales was as forested as England, above the treeline there was open moors and rocky plains. The Brecons would reforest as would the 'valleys' eventually. I assume you mean through recent (last 200 years) pollution? That also could be wilded.

I am not against sheep farming, far from it. It seems to me that small scale tree planting i.e. a few acres to tens of acres plots in a lot of places is less preferable than ten thousand acres in a few places.
 
Threepwood said:
Why am I replying to a bad troll? Anyway returnee6600, if we blast off copious ammounts of C02 away from the earth we would be losing the oxygen that is tied up in the co2. As for algae, I'm sure you know that algae bloom is already a problem, it creates dead spots in the ocean that do not have enough oxygen to support life, because of the bacteria that feeds off the dead algae. Also, china has relaxed the 1 child rule.
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The algae is a natural process the world is taking to try and rebalance. Besides i believe your looking at freshwater more so and is a common misinterpretation of what im looking at. Kelp forests are a form of algae bloom also.

If we put the rockeys into orbit we can recall them just like storage units.
 
Guest6600 said:
The algae is a natural process the world is taking to try and rebalance. Besides i believe your looking at freshwater more so and is a common misinterpretation of what im looking at.
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Eh? The algae blooms are more down to run off of fertialiser creating an excess of nitrogen which feeds the algae, its got bugger all to do with rebalancing. I'm literally talking about in the sea, especially around costal regions.
 
Thats still only 1 element. We are better utilising this somehow. I cant help thinking how narrow minded you all are. If its as bad as theyre saying then we have to think bigger.

Carbon neutral is a beginner concept and abit of a fad. We need to achieve negative co2 then we can rebalance it all.

Perhaps we need to go too far in 1 direction so it creates a vacuum behind us pulling it all back into balance.
 
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