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GT200 GTX280/260 "official specs"
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I think I understand what you're getting at, the GeForce GTX280 and GeForce 8800 series share the same architecture, just the GTX280 is a rather beefed up version of it. I agree in that respect, this is a lot like GeForce 6800 -> GeForce 7800, with similar performance gains on single cards which is a good thing. The main problems I have with the card is that they're pricing it so high in respects to its performance, if the 9800 GX2 beats it sometimes, if you stick two 8800 GT's in SLi you're basically getting the same performance for half the price. That means the GTX280 is way off the price/performance curve (as was the 9800 GTX). I agree the card is really fast, but in respect to what's already out, it's a terrible buy IMO.
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you realise thats the draw of the entire system right? and if you look again at the graph, you'll see the average consumption of the zotac OVERCLOCKED gx280 is the same 274w as the 9800gx2. the stock POV gtx280 is actually 25w lower than the gx2.....36w less than a 3870x2.
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Planning on getting 2 of these and running them in SLI... I hope my Toughpower 1200W psu is up to the job? 
Very unlikely i'd say.
Planning on getting 2 of these and running them in SLI... I hope my Toughpower 1200W psu is up to the job?
I'd get another to be sure.
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Planning on getting 2 of these and running them in SLI... I hope my Toughpower 1200W psu is up to the job?
of course it will
your looking at 46w more draw than 8800gtx sli, which will run fine on a 620w corsair. if your toughpower cant manage it then its one hell of a crap power supply It's not consistently better than the 9800 GX2 so I'd say it was unlikely, not in any consistent manner anyway.
Planning on getting 2 of these and running them in SLI... I hope my Toughpower 1200W psu is up to the job?
Yay, another member of The More Money Than Sense Brigade. Buy three and post benchies.
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of course it will
Have not even built the thing yet... just asking!
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Question.
If since the latest drivers ATi cards have began to catch up Nvidia parts, and in this case the 3870X2 catching the 9800GX2 in a few tests. If we take the 4870 as being quicker than a 3870X2 wouldnt that mean the 4870 is quicker than a GX2 (or roughly on par) and thus as quick of not just off a 280 GTX?
If that makes sense.
Martyn
If since the latest drivers ATi cards have began to catch up Nvidia parts, and in this case the 3870X2 catching the 9800GX2 in a few tests. If we take the 4870 as being quicker than a 3870X2 wouldnt that mean the 4870 is quicker than a GX2 (or roughly on par) and thus as quick of not just off a 280 GTX?
If that makes sense.
Martyn
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Mate, I know what you're saying but that's a double gpu card. I was really hoping that we'd see the performance of a GX2, or better, with the power usage of an 8800GTX.
Where's the incentive to upgrade from your GX2 or GTX sli set up? Unless you're mremulator and sli these!!
If these bechies are true, then the 3870X2 looks like really good value at £230...........unless you want to play crysis.
I hate how it takes ATI months to get the most out of there cards with the drivers. I dont want to go through that.
People knock NV and there long times between WHQL driver releases... but being as NV do a better job in the first place, they dont really need to change.
I dont want to buy a card and wait months before i get my moneys worth. It's been like this with ATI for years, i remember it was like it with my 9700 Pro many years ago, ATI always do it, and people see it as a good thing?!
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Or, it could just be that Nvidia is putting out similar quality drivers, but just not improving them like AMD are. It goes both ways y'know.
You can have the best software engineers in the world, but there will always be more bugs to fix, there will always be a bit of performance to squeeze out of hardware. Saying that Nvidia don't need to release new drivers regularly is naive, if they can't find the bugs, they simply aren't looking hard enough.
That said, it's unfair to compare Nvidia's drivers to AMD's drivers as the R600-style 5-way superscalar core is inherently more complex than G80, and thus more difficult to write drivers for.
Edit: Still an 8800 GTS 320 owner here btw, it's far and away superior to my old X1650 Pro, but I find Nvidia's driver support abysmal by comparison.
NVIDIA woot.Incremental fixes, performance gains, new features. Vista users getting there problems dealt with month by month. I've seen many disgruntled Nvidia/Vista users. There should have been better support. It also doesn't look like Nvidia will whip up their driver team into overdrive in the foreseeable future either.
Two words the customers are looking for with Nvidia and that's what they seem to lack in sometimes is "innovation" and "reliability". When you buy you'd like having the best support and that's a fact in just about any purchase. Yes the G80GTS/GTX and G92GT/GTS really done well but as new models came along the support for the not so old cards were kind of dropped* as the G80GTX had been also from Dec 07 to May 08. Yes, the performances are doing well but going through games monthly with a dedicated driver team trying to smooth out little problems, forever tweaking to get it right is what Nvidia users should get.
I'm not wanting to start a debate about this MR.B. We're all waiting for the performance of the cards. Not the drivers. I'm very sure both manufacturers will have a decent driver come launch day. So lets just wait for the green and red parade
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