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Haha, you are a legend
can't argue with that!
If some dude in India said "yes it is" it definitely makes you correct, right.
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Literally a representative of nVidia who has been told what to call them.
Love how goal posts move to suit people
Guys, just a heads-up for those who are buying more than one;
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1080-2-way-sli-review,1.html
Seems like 1000-series SLi is pretty broken at present and only working in very few games
Bit gutted as I wanted to go out and get another 1080 earlier!!!
I am 80% determined to get a 1070.
1080 has a bit more performance but I don't like the price tag.
The performance / value factor is clearly in favour of 1070. I keep an eye on performance tests and I see the 1070 being over 980Ti, that's good enough for me. I still use a 970 so the difference will be noticeable.
Price drops will happen they always do...
I'm sending the 1080 FE back and getting a 1070...
Hopefully with a game too.
I put my reply to you in spoilers so I don't take this thread off topic.
You aren't following or even understanding. Of course Nvidia are going to call these cards high end and ask you to pay high end prices. And it's plain to see the simple bait and switch has worked on you too.
You say for the last 8 years the x80 and x70 has represented the high end. This is true up until 2012 when they released the 680 and 670. These were mid range cards? How do we know? Because they were built on the GK104 chip.
The name of cards don't matter, I don't think there is just two cards per level. I am basing it strictly on what chip is used. For example the 780, 780Ti, Titan were all high end cards. They were built using the GK110. But Nvidia learned from that mistake. The Titan and 780 were too close in performance. Now they use the Gxxx4 chip, to make the x80 and x70 cards.
Don't you get that? The mid range die has always produced the mid range GPUs.
Chips ending with 0 - GF100, GF110, GK110, GM100,
Chips ending with 4 - GF104, GF114, GK104, GK114, GM104, GP104.
Now Pre 2012 cards based on those chips line up exactly as you have wrote.
High end:-
GF100 - 480 and 470
GF110 - 580 and 570
Mid range:-
GF104 - 460
GF114 - 560, 560ti
In 2012 Nvidia had no high end chip. There was no GK100. So they were forced, or maybe they had it planned, to use their GK104 part as high end.
High end
GK104 - 680, 670.
Then began the first part of their plan to charge more for their cards. They introduced the Titan.
high end:-
GK110 - Titan, 780.
GK110B - 780 Ti, Titan Black and Titan Z.
Mid range :-
GK104 - 770, 760.
Now with the success of the Titan, basically the 580 GTX of it's time with a much higher price tag. Nvidia moved to next stage, moving the price of their mid range cards up.
Ultra high end
GM100 - Titan-X, 980Ti
High End
GM104 - 980, 970.
And again with Pascal,
High End
GP104 - 1080, 1070.
Don't you see what has happened? Nvidia just invented an ultra high end tier and the Titan and x80ti branded cards are in that category. But, they are just the x80 and x70 cards relabelled. And now the mid range cards have been relabelled x80 and x70 and they are called the high end.
There hasn't been an added level of performance in the last few years. Ultra high end, means nothing. It's just a label by Nvidia that allows them to sell cards for a higher price. It's brilliant marketing, because nearly everybody here fully believes that the 1080 is high end and is happy to pay for that.
A couple of these looks like decent value if they £330 compared to 1080
The EVGA 970 SC was about £300 at launch, I got mine for £260 with FC4 a month or two after launch. It might take the 490 launch to do it but you will see some reasonable reductions. I think £300 with a game will happen.
Has anyone done a review of the MSI 1080 yet? I wonder if 1070s will have better supply or actually be out around launch if we are already getting reviews of custom cards. If the 1080 supply was being limited by yields then that shouldn't affect the 1070 nearly as much
Very good review, enjoyed reading.
Wow it overclocked closer to 2.1GHz while temp at 63C and fans running silent at 38%.
The difference between an open bench and a well cooled, high airflow case is negligible.
Well I have 2 computers and the second one gets the components I upgrade from the first. So resale value is no big deal for me.
I want to see decent prices though, not crazy extra hundreds of pounds for a little bit of extra speed.
That MSI 1070 review is now offline, anyone got a cache link or anything? MSI one of the brands I'd be considering