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GTX 1070 - any takers?

not sure why you guys are still debating on high/mid/low end subject and where 1070/1080 sits - this has been confirmed by nvidia's "engineer" in post #399 a few pages back. end of debate :)
 
I am 80% determined to get a 1070.

1080 has a bit more performance but I don't like the price tag.

The performance / value factor is clearly in favour of 1070. I keep an eye on performance tests and I see the 1070 being over 980Ti, that's good enough for me. I still use a 970 so the difference will be noticeable.

to me more more important is the resale value rather than price tag.

If I can sell 1080 for at least 80% of what I paid 1 years later I'll be happy...I may be wrong but I don't think 1080 will hold its 2nd hand market value.
 
Hopefully with a game too.

Not sure why people think that price of 1070 will go down substantially. It won't. Not in the next 2 years.

Not only nvidia has strong position on the market (read monopoly) but historically 1070's predecessor, gtx 970 still costs pretty much the same when it was released over 1.5(!) years ago.

My bet is that 1080 will depreciate quite fast unless nvidia decides to delay 1080ti release. Which may as well happen.

I agree that price of tech stuff in general goes down quickly but this is only in fast moving and competitive market. PC gaming GPU market, although it may not look like it, is rather stagnant in this respect. In other words, don't expect price drops on 1070 in the next 2 years. You may be able to get broken Far Cry 5 if you're lucky ;)
 
I put my reply to you in spoilers so I don't take this thread off topic.

You aren't following or even understanding. Of course Nvidia are going to call these cards high end and ask you to pay high end prices. And it's plain to see the simple bait and switch has worked on you too.

You say for the last 8 years the x80 and x70 has represented the high end. This is true up until 2012 when they released the 680 and 670. These were mid range cards? How do we know? Because they were built on the GK104 chip.

The name of cards don't matter, I don't think there is just two cards per level. I am basing it strictly on what chip is used. For example the 780, 780Ti, Titan were all high end cards. They were built using the GK110. But Nvidia learned from that mistake. The Titan and 780 were too close in performance. Now they use the Gxxx4 chip, to make the x80 and x70 cards.

Don't you get that? The mid range die has always produced the mid range GPUs.

Chips ending with 0 - GF100, GF110, GK110, GM100,
Chips ending with 4 - GF104, GF114, GK104, GK114, GM104, GP104.


Now Pre 2012 cards based on those chips line up exactly as you have wrote.
High end:-
GF100 - 480 and 470
GF110 - 580 and 570

Mid range:-
GF104 - 460
GF114 - 560, 560ti

In 2012 Nvidia had no high end chip. There was no GK100. So they were forced, or maybe they had it planned, to use their GK104 part as high end.
High end
GK104 - 680, 670.

Then began the first part of their plan to charge more for their cards. They introduced the Titan.
high end:-
GK110 - Titan, 780.
GK110B - 780 Ti, Titan Black and Titan Z.

Mid range :-
GK104 - 770, 760.

Now with the success of the Titan, basically the 580 GTX of it's time with a much higher price tag. Nvidia moved to next stage, moving the price of their mid range cards up.
Ultra high end
GM100 - Titan-X, 980Ti

High End
GM104 - 980, 970.

And again with Pascal,
High End
GP104 - 1080, 1070.

Don't you see what has happened? Nvidia just invented an ultra high end tier and the Titan and x80ti branded cards are in that category. But, they are just the x80 and x70 cards relabelled. And now the mid range cards have been relabelled x80 and x70 and they are called the high end.

There hasn't been an added level of performance in the last few years. Ultra high end, means nothing. It's just a label by Nvidia that allows them to sell cards for a higher price. It's brilliant marketing, because nearly everybody here fully believes that the 1080 is high end and is happy to pay for that.

You just breaking nvidia's magic spell mate! let people feel these high end vibes just like apple folks do... :-))

I said that before but will say it again, hats off to Nvidia executives. They hell know how to run a profitable business.
 
The EVGA 970 SC was about £300 at launch, I got mine for £260 with FC4 a month or two after launch. It might take the 490 launch to do it but you will see some reasonable reductions. I think £300 with a game will happen.

you're probably talking about one off offers rather than permanent price reductions.

But I agree you can find a deal if you patient enough.
 
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hahaha. exactly what I'm thinking

suddenly, gtx 1080 doesn't look that bad afterall :-)
 
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