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GTX 1070 - any takers?

Boomstick777 said:
1070 is a good upgrade for GTX 970 / R9 390 owners

1080 is a good upgrade for GTX 980 / Nano / Fury owners.
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+1 boom very logical upgrade paths but as you say it all goes out the window to those who can't resist the buy button even though they have a factory OCd 980Ti :D

Mei said:
if you only play big name titles it could be good....
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Also avoid pretty much any game in DX12 mode :p
 
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Much better price for performance than the 1080. These will do well £300-350 I would imagine. Fits very nicely as a 2560x1440 card :)

I will still wait and see what Polaris has to offer before buying however.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
We will see if there are cards after the FE that are lower than that though, it might be worth a punt.
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you are saying that as though you have doubt there will be?

MSRP is $379. As the 1080 has shown, cheap blowers were £100 cheaper than the FE and even top cards like the evga FTW came in at less than the FE.

A lot of decent custom 1070's WILL come in cheaper than £400. Naff blower ones will probably start around £320.
 
mikeym said:
I'm trying not to get swept up by all the excitement of new cards. After all, I only have a 1080p 120Hz monitor!
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Oh but cause your 1080p monitor is 120Hz you have a perfect excuse for a 1070! Before going 1440p 144Hz I had a 1080p 60Hz monitor and still got a 980Ti, albeit using UHD DSR most of the time instead of AA.
 
RanxZy said:
Oh but cause your 1080p monitor is 120Hz you have a perfect excuse for a 1070! Before going 1440p 144Hz I had a 1080p 60Hz monitor and still got a 980Ti, albeit using UHD DSR most of the time instead of AA.
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That's not helping me trying to be frugal ;):D

Although, I would be reducing my power consumption dramatically!
 
Jono8 said:
you are saying that as though you have doubt there will be?

MSRP is $379. As the 1080 has shown, cheap blowers were £100 cheaper than the FE and even top cards like the evga FTW came in at less than the FE.

A lot of decent custom 1070's WILL come in cheaper than £400. Naff blower ones will probably start around £320.
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Going by the costs of the majority of the aftermarket 1080's I have doubts whether it'll go down by much really and I would never buy one with an asda smartprice cooler.

Any 1080 with a respectable cooler is similar to an FE so I am waiting to see if that works with the 1070 too.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Going by the costs of the majority of the aftermarket 1080's I have doubts whether it'll go down by much really and I would never buy one with an asda smartprice cooler.

Any 1080 with a respectable cooler is similar to an FE so I am waiting to see if that works with the 1070 too.
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You cant discuss competitors on here so wont post links or prices but you can get quite a few very decent custom cards from good brands for less than £600. Hell even on here there are quite a few !
 
Jono8 said:
You cant discuss competitors on here so wont post links or prices but you can get quite a few very decent custom cards from good brands for less than £600. Hell even on here there are quite a few !
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Yes, I did say not many, and there's maybe 3 that are actually close to the msrp.

However I do accept your point that there are more than I originally assumed there were, it's still disappointing that the majority seem closer to the FE pricing rather than the price that Nvidia say it would be.
 
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crinkleshoes said:
The 970 memory issue is heavily exacerbated when in SLI... 1070 will have this problem too due to the memory controller structure being practically the same as 970.

980/980Ti/TitanX don't have that problem.

SLI with those cards or the 1080 will be a good experience.
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james.miller said:
not the same. the 1070 has the same amount of L2 and ROPS as the 1080. 970 and 980 were different.
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crinkleshoes said:
No they weren't... the 970 has 64 ROPs, the 980 has 64 ROPs.

The issue is the interface between the bank of shaders/texture units and memory controller...

The difference between the shaders/tex-u is still there... the ROPs are the same on both... only the ratios differ.

The new core does have a different design though, which improves things from last time.
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No.

When the GTX 980 and GTX 970 were released, NVIDIA provided the above original specifications for the two cards. The launch GTX 900 GPUs would be a standard full/die-harvested card pair, with the GTX 980 using a fully enabled GM204 GPU, while the GTX 970 would be using a die-harvested GPU where one or more SMMs had failed. As a result of this the big differences between the GTX 980 and GTX 970 would be a minor clockspeed difference, the disabling of 3 (of 16) SMMs, and a resulting reduction in power consumption. Most important for the conversation at hand, we were told that both possessed identical memory subsystems: 4GB of 7GHz GDDR5 on a 256-bit bus, split amongst 4 ROP/memory controller partitions. All 4 partitions would be fully active on the GTX 970, with 2MB of L2 cache and 64 ROPs available.

This, as it turns out, was incorrect.

As part of our discussion with NVIDIA, they laid out the fact that the original published specifications for the GTX 970 were wrong, and as a result the “unusual” behavior that users had been seeing from the GTX 970 was in fact expected behavior for a card configured as the GTX 970 was. To get straight to the point then, NVIDIA’s original publication of the ROP/memory controller subsystem was wrong; GTX 970 has a 256-bit memory bus, but 1 of the 4 ROP/memory controller partitions was partially disabled, not fully enabled like we were originally told. As a result GTX 970 only has 56 of 64 ROPs and 1.75MB of 2MB of L2 cache enabled. The memory controllers themselves remain unchanged, with all four controllers active and driving 4GB of VRAM over a combined 256-bit memory bus.
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the 970 had 56 ROPS and 1.75Mb of L2.

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8x L2 modules, 8x ROPS per module. 64x ROPs in total. 1x L2 module disabled on the 970, 56x ROPs remaining.

crinkleshoes said:
it's interesting to observe how many people still haven't gotten their heads around the issue with the 970 yet even :eek:
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Quite..
 
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The 1070 is priced too high to be an upgrade for the 970 which sold well in part because the cards below were disappointing so people sitting on 660Tis or 7950s bust their budgets when normally they'd have gone for 960/285(380) for about £180.

So to get a 1070 for say £330 is a step way too far.

As a standalone new card though it does open the door to 4k gaming, if I was Nvidia I would definitely make the most of that.
 
I have a 780TI which I can probably sell for around £200. Should I get the 1080 or the 1070? I'm leaning towards the 1070, but I expect the release price to be ~£400. A decent 1080 is around £609
 
Bigminimus said:
I have a 780TI which I can probably sell for around £200. Should I get the 1080 or the 1070? I'm leaning towards the 1070, but I expect the release price to be ~£400. A decent 1080 is around £609
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The founders edition is £399, if the 1080 is anything to go by there will be crappy blower ones for £320-325 and decent aftermarket ones starting at £350.

Edit: Also, sell the 780Ti now. They still go for £160-200 on eBay. Wait any longer and that price will drop.
 
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