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oh yeah, i forgot. The 6970 beats the 580 doesn't it
Soldato
no, the 590 was I think?!
Maybe you're right actually.
But I was talking about the single GPU's
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people people people!! the card isnt even out yet!!
Only peeps who have WAYYYYYY to much money will rush out to get the new cards and most of the time upgrading from a card that "DOES THE JOB FINE" i am still running two 480s and am more than happy with the performance, Plays BF3 on a 2560x1440 res ips screen with all settings auto on HIGH and am getting very good FPS.
The 7970 is a very nice but at the mo overpriced card and i would wait for the price drop OR go and get two 6970s and cfx them for the same price of the 7970 and they would be faster, Or better still the 6950 and flash them and OC them to 6970 specs ect as that would be cheaper still..
Cant wait to see the new nVidia card though hehe
PS i am no fanboy of one company ,, i go were the best deal is to be had etc.
Only peeps who have WAYYYYYY to much money will rush out to get the new cards and most of the time upgrading from a card that "DOES THE JOB FINE" i am still running two 480s and am more than happy with the performance, Plays BF3 on a 2560x1440 res ips screen with all settings auto on HIGH and am getting very good FPS.
The 7970 is a very nice but at the mo overpriced card and i would wait for the price drop OR go and get two 6970s and cfx them for the same price of the 7970 and they would be faster, Or better still the 6950 and flash them and OC them to 6970 specs ect as that would be cheaper still..
Cant wait to see the new nVidia card though hehe
PS i am no fanboy of one company ,, i go were the best deal is to be had etc
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thats were you wrong ^ but 590 pretty close, but 6990 edges in front considering all the reviews, but lets not go off topic then.
ohh ninja edit i like
people people people!! the card isnt even out yet!!
Only peeps who have WAYYYYYY to much money will rush out to get the new cards and most of the time upgrading from a card that "DOES THE JOB FINE" i am still running two 480s and am more than happy with the performance, Plays BF3 on a 2560x1440 res ips screen with all settings auto on HIGH and am getting very good FPS.
The 7970 is a very nice but at the mo overpriced card and i would wait for the price drop OR go and get two 6970s and cfx them for the same price of the 7970 and they would be faster, Or better still the 6950 and flash them and OC them to 6970 specs ect as that would be cheaper still..
Cant wait to see the new nVidia card though hehe
PS i am no fanboy of one company ,, i go were the best deal is to be had etc
TBH, makes no sense buying until both companies have realeased their cards as only then will there be competetiveness
It's the vagueness from Nvidia that concerns me. I was inline for an upgrade, was considering 580 3gb, but then the 7970 blew it out of the water for me, and the lack of info about Kepler was the nail in the coffin, so went down the 7970 route - Tbh, with so much headroom with overclocking, the 7970's are beast. The only problem is the ridiculous price
We almost agree, the lack of solid information from Nvidia is a concern... But I already own a 580 and right now it still has all the performance I need. With next gen consoles at least a year away I don't see games doing much to push hardware this year, so the 7970 represents nothing more than a side-grade for me. I'd still like one, but it would be extra head room just for the sake of it, and I cant justify the price for that alone.
The ASUS Mars (NVidia based GTX580 X2) was actually the fastest single card of the 40nm generation. The standard 590's and 6990's were pretty even, but 6990's seemed to edge it at ultra high resolutions. The Mars was however really expensive, even by specialist card standards.
NVidia will have the fastest GPU when Kepler eventually arrives. They started from a higher base point with the GTX580, and from what I can see Kepler increases more over "GTX580 specs" than AMD increased the 7970 over "6970 specs".
AMD will probalably regain the budget high-end crown once Kepler is released (and AMD cuts 7900 prices), but there is very little doubt who will have the fastest single GPU. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in the vast minority.
AMD will probalably regain the budget high-end crown once Kepler is released (and AMD cuts 7900 prices), but there is very little doubt who will have the fastest single GPU. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in the vast minority.
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This, however running BF3 at 2560 x 1600 on a 1.5G GTX 580 I can't max things out. 7970 would be a decent upgrade, but only in a heavily overclocked instance (1200Mhz plus on the core) which would give me 50FPS+, which is still just shy of the magical 60fps I'm wanting. 2 reasons I'm hanging out for Kepler -
1. 60fps at the res above in BF3 should be feasible at stock.
2. Whilst 50fps+ is possible from a 7970 heavily overclocked, I'm sketchy on why I should have to do so. If the 7970 is the all singing/dancing GTX580 slayer, why did AMD release it at such low clocks? I understand the TDP argument, but it still smacks of ******** to me - if you've got a completely killer chip why not totally blow the opposition out of the water? Anyone that's fried a GPU (and I'm one of them) is sketchy on pushing them to super high clocks/volts - and while 7970 does all this really well I'm still acutely aware it's *well* beyond it's stock, which in turn makes me think of longevity etc. Sorry AMD, but if you really stand behind your product as being so killer, crank the stock clocks/voltages and put your money where your mouth is. Or are they worried about the manufacturing process and associated RMA's 3 months down the track?
I'm waiting for Kepler.
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Nvidia is not as dominant as people seem to think...
Excluding the people who think a 590 is a single GPU like on the BF3 forums, bunch of fricking noobs!
If Kepler has a higher power draw it will beat Tahiti, that's basically what's happening and what everyone is predicting. No surprises.
Excluding the people who think a 590 is a single GPU like on the BF3 forums, bunch of fricking noobs!
If Kepler has a higher power draw it will beat Tahiti, that's basically what's happening and what everyone is predicting. No surprises.
thats were you wrong ^ but 590 pretty close, but 6990 edges in front considering all the reviews, but lets not go off topic then.
ohh ninja edit i like
It actually doesn't. it did in early reviews with shoddy 590 drivers, but as it stands now they are equa at best. The 590 seems to lead in more games if u look at anandbench. cos where the 6990 leads the difference is small but where the 590 leads there is a bit more of a gap in a few games. but yes let's not go off topic.
we're talking about gpus. 580 is ahead by a fair marginWhen did AMD last release the fastest single GPU of a given generation? I know that the 9700pro was awesome, then they went through the dustbuster years, but have AMD produced a card since the 9700pro in 2002 that was actually top dog?
They have made some good cards in-between (4850, 5800's etc), but they tend to have been the budget high-end kings, rather than the high-end performance king. In performance terms alone, NVidia have been almost totally dominant, albeit at a premium price.
They have made some good cards in-between (4850, 5800's etc), but they tend to have been the budget high-end kings, rather than the high-end performance king. In performance terms alone, NVidia have been almost totally dominant, albeit at a premium price.
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It'll be because of the fact that when overclocked, the card breaks ATX standards (300w TDP) so they are limited on what they can actually ship. The power draw on over 1.2ghz core is ment to be exceptionally high and the heat generated reflects that. The 7970 HSF on the reference boards is also very loud above 60% according to reviews, so putting the clockrates at higher levels would just make that vastly more apparent and affect sales. Look back at the FX5x00 series from nvidia which where comparable to leaf blowers...