Halal, is it meat you're looking for?

The point is that I shouldn't have to change what I eat from the menu when it has been in place for a number of years.

You live in Devon, have any of the Devon Subways dropped pork products?

Not stocking a product will potentially cost them customers. It already has in fact, me.

They have obviously made a commercial decision that they will gain more customers than they lose.
 
I'd imagine a large percentage of the offended crowd feel as though they have been mislead and lied up by the supermarkets and takeaway chains not being open and honest about where that meat is coming from and the method of execution.
After the horse meat scandal you would surely have expected the big chains to be more open about where they are sourcing meats from no?

Anyone who's up in arms because it's "muslim meat" is of course totally retarded but surely everyone can understand the reasons behind the choice brigade being offended.


Personally I don't like the idea of an animal being religiously sacrificed and think religion should be kept away from non religious people.
I wouldn't want coke that's been made with blessed water either.. you religious nutters should be kept at arms length
 
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I personally hope they've ****** it up and go under. Depriving me of my god given right to BMT, it's a disgrace.

Have you tried your local Subway to see if it has stopped serving pork? My local ones haven't. Would hate for you to be getting all outraged for nothing.
 
I'd imagine a large percentage of the offended crowd feel as though they have been mislead and lied up by the supermarkets and takeaway chains not being open and honest about where that meat is coming from and the method of execution.

After the horse meat scandal you would surely have expected the big chains to be more open about where they are sourcing meats from no?

Anyone who's up in arms because it's "muslim meat" is of course totally retarded but surely everyone can understand the reasons behind the choice brigade being offended

Yet if you ask anywhere they tell you straight. I remember a guy asking in a restaurant in front of me and then saying he didn't want a table.

most takeaways in Cardiff are HALAL even miss millies, they have been for the best part of 6 years if not longer
 
Have you tried your local Subway to see if it has stopped serving pork? My local ones haven't. Would hate for you to be getting all outraged for nothing.

In fairness the 'god given' line was intentionally tongue in cheek. However, yes, my local Subway is no longer serving pork, hence I won't eat there anymore.
 
The point is that I shouldn't have to change what I eat from the menu when it has been in place for a number of years.

Why not, things change all the time you adapt and move elsewhere. Why are your particular needs more important than others, aside from selfish reasons. This is a business, they will serve what is best for their business. Secondly you don't need to change anything, you have a choice where you eat and which branch.

For example, I do not go into restaurants that serve fish and rant hard about my seafood allergy until they change the menu. That would be selfish to those who do like fish, and who do eat it.

That's not what's happened here though. I as a Muslim have used Subways for years, just ordered tuna. Same with Greggs, they sell all sorts of pork products, I just order tuna/cheese and still do. Subways perhaps have seen a large percentage of their customers are Muslim in some branches, and have adapted to offer them a larger variety and it has worked. My local subways has never been busier.


My point is - and always has been - is that the menu has been changed in a detrimental way to myself, having been in place for a number of years, in order to pander to a minority.

I am naturally, not happy about this at all - as I tend to like going into Subway to order one of the products that will be removed.

I understand you're not happy a business has decided your concerns as a minority are not as important to them as profit. Yes they are not pandering to you nor have they pandered to Muslims.

I can do what I like. If people don't like Subway serving bacon and ham they should **** off.

And all I said if you don't like Subways not serving bacon, you should **** off. Just saying if you think others should do one if they don't like something you should do one if you don't like something.
 
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What rubbish, but then it is you. Why sell something that is not profitable. Those stores have decided it is not worth selling, zero wrong with it.

It would be like forcing a farm shop to sell Tesco value chicken. Mo one would buy it and goes against the believes of the vast majority of their customers.
Why force mediaeval religious practice onto 21st century customers?
 
Why force mediaeval religious practice onto 21st century customers?

Who's forcing it?

Your arguments or lack off, show what you are really like, you're the same in all these sorts of threads.

subways aren't forcing halal or no pork on anyone, subways is a franchise. Certain outlets have complained they aren't making profit on certain goods, parent company have agreed, so they don't have to stock those ingredients. It's down to each framchise, and it's down to the public to vote with their wallet. It's not forced on anyone.

As I've already said I would like several things outlawing.
First off all labelling on all uk and foregone based meat ton be clear if it's been stunned or not. Then out right banned, then stunning to be outlawed as well.

There's 1700 subways in the uk, 185 are no pork. Almost certainly in heavy Muslim populated areas. What exactly is your issue?
 
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You would think there would be a bigger outcry and boycott of eggs, considering millions of chicks are ground up alive every single day simply because they are not of the right breed.

It just goes to illustrate a fairly large part of the furore is simply because Islam is in the title. There are many more pressing issues at hand if animal welfare is your priority, which many claim, but simply is another reason to attack Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dobAEyLFQ
 
To me it's a problem as places supplying it have not been open an honest in how the animal was slaughtered, it matters to me how the animal was raised and killed which is why I buy free range foods where possible.

It may be a small amount of animals that were not stunned before before being killed but knowing the food is halal and might have been killed in a way I think is cruel will make me avoid buying it as I don't want to support a way of killing the animal that I don't agree with.
 
Why does it take 2-3 minutes for the cow to die in agony when surely it'll looses consciousness within about 10 seconds like most animals who have throat arteries severed?

This is something the ignorant spout, "HERP DERP IT'S MOVING IT MUST BE IN AGONY" and that's as far as their brain goes. There has actually been a proper study done on this, and it has confirmed that the stunning method actually results in the animals feeling a lot more pain, as they don't go unconscious, than the throat cut method. However, the ignorant don't accept it and just continue to herp derp about how because it's moving, it's in pain, despite not addressing the issues behind why it's moving.
 
I can and I am suggesting that most of the people campaigning to keep kfc non halal care not for the animals life at all.

Just dressing their disdain for all things muslim up as an issue for animal rights. (not saying people on here specifically) but many people in general all the people that harp on about halal food on a BNP fora for example I highly doubt they care one bit for any animal.

I don't see them campaigning against trawling but HALAL that's cruel......

They'll moan about Spanish fishing too but not our own.....

Aye bud,

You'll note its the same names in each 'oh noes dem muslamics' threads here in GD that harp on about anything with a mere mention of Islam on it. Any excuse for a bit of hate promotion from the pathetic same bigots.
 
To me it's a problem as places supplying it have not been open an honest in how the animal was slaughtered, it matters to me how the animal was raised and killed which is why I buy free range foods where possible.

It may be a small amount of animals that were not stunned before before being killed but knowing the food is halal and might have been killed in a way I think is cruel will make me avoid buying it as I don't want to support a way of killing the animal that I don't agree with.

What is it that makes you think it's cruel? This is a genuine question, I'd like to know your thought process when it comes to thinking about why it's cruel.
 
You would think there would be a bigger outcry and boycott of eggs, considering millions of chicks are ground up alive every single day simply because they are not of the right breed.

It just goes to illustrate a fairly large part of the furore is simply because Islam is in the title. There are many more pressing issues at hand if animal welfare is your priority, which many claim, but simply is another reason to attack Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dobAEyLFQ

lets not talk about milk either.
 
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