Hamilton to Mercedes? BBC

[FrankJH]

I never blamed him at all, I said he has done not a lot, which is correct.

Had I said this 2 weeks ago there would be no outrage, but now Lewis is going there so Brawn must be brilliant all of a sudden.

because he didnt get a chance to do anything with Honda which is different to what you are inferring

Not at all - I actually said a couple of weeks ago that if /when Merc do have a title challanging car it will be the longest developement process before RB has been a success

 

[Mr Men]

I never inferred anything other than say he has not done a lot. Honda left him with a budget for the season and then he has had Merc's backing. And there really has been little signs of Merc improving to a top team.

 

[Kenai]

Had I said this 2 weeks ago there would be no outrage

Rubbish, Brawn has always been popular on here and you'd have received the same response regardless of Lewis.

He won a championship with a team that had to suffer huge staff cuts during their campaign and has subsequently managed to successfully rebuild that team to the point that they are once again a fully staffed, fully funded competitive team ready to develop a challenging car, never finishing lower than 4th in the championship despite having a crippled staff (and to an extent crippled budget comparative to the teams around them) for so long.

I'd honestly say what he has achieved at Brawn/Mercedes GP has been quite remarkable and far from having done hardly anything.

 

[Mr Men]

He has achieved what with Merc?

 

[Kenai]

It's written in the post just above yours, try reading.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

It doesn't?

Your posts in this thread would say otherwise. Maybe that is just me though.

 

[Mr Men]

Yeah I did I just not see any achievements with Merc.

 

[Mr Men]

Your posts in this thread would say otherwise. Maybe that is just me though.

Which posts?

 

[Kenai]

Yeah I did I just not see any achievements with Merc.

Your statement was that he hasn't done a lot - he has - you're just choosing to ignore it.

 

[Mr Men]

Your statement was that he hasn't done a lot - he has - you're just choosing to ignore it.

I don't think he has compared to what he done at Benetton and Ferrari.

 

[Kenai]

You never qualified your original statement with 'compared to', you're moving the goalposts now.

 

[englishpremier]

He has achieved what with Merc?

Helped to build the team and get them to stage where they can compete in the formula for years to come. Oh and got a team with the 4th budget a race win.

Just because a team isn't regularly winning doesn't mean there aren't worthwhile achievements there.

 

[Mr Men]

You never qualified your original statement with 'compared to', you're moving the goalposts now.

I said he has not done a lot since leaving Ferrari, so I am not sure how that is moving goalposts? Clear mention of Ferrari and the success he had there.

 

[MagicBoy]

yeah go on post your facts. Or don't you have any?

We've already posted that Brawn GP won the 2009 WDC and constructors championship. That's a fact, and it trumps your ill-reasoned opinion.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

We've already posted that Brawn GP won the 2009 WDC and constructors championship.

Quite an achievement and Mercedes clearly agreed by keeping him in that position in the team.

 

[Janesy B]

I think we've hit a bit of a brick wall here...

 

[Mr Men]

Nobody has said it was not an achievement.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I think we've hit a bit of a brick wall here...

We always do with some posters in this section.

 

[Janesy B]

Nobody has said it was not an achievement.

You're implying that by saying he hasn't done anything since Ferrari

 

[Mr Men]

You're implying that by saying he hasn't done anything since Ferrari

No I did not. I said he has not done a lot since leaving Ferrari, not sure how you convert that into not doing anything.