Hamilton to Mercedes? BBC

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 11:50

You have done nothing to convince me Brawn has done a lot since leaving Ferrari.

Torro Rosso are not Red Bull nice u-turn.

Irish_Tom · 1 Oct 2012 at 11:53

iamtheoneneo said:
sad to see people slating MSC here, he is without a doubt one of the best drivers in the world. Ok so hes not all that great atm, but this is a guy with a massive track record and used to tear up the opposition on a weekly basis due to his sheer talent.

No one is doubting his record. All they are saying is that since he came back to F1 he hasn't set the world on fire.

FreeStream · 1 Oct 2012 at 12:31

Panzerbjorn said:
No one is doubting his record. All they are saying is that since he came back to F1 he hasn't set the world on fire.

Exactly this.

I've never seen him race, but he has clearly lost his actual abilities that gained him his 7 titles.

englishpremier · 1 Oct 2012 at 12:48

Mr Men said:
Which is why they nearly lost the title, which fits in with Brawn has done very little since leaving Ferrari, good grief.

What has he done with Merc's money?

Restaff.

They have less money then Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, so you wouldn't expect them to be beating such teams. They do have a larger budget than Lotus though, so you'd expect them to be ahead slightly.

Their financing comes through sponsorship, though if there is a short fall, then Dailmer underwrite it.

Duke · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:09

I wonder who will take the Sauber seat, one of the drivers in a lower team or a GP2 driver?

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:12

Mr Men said:
You have done nothing to convince me Brawn has done a lot since leaving Ferrari.

No one here is trying to convince you. They are stating facts when you are stating an opinion.
Your opinion does not match up with the facts and never will.

TaKeN · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:14

Duke said:
I wonder who will take the Sauber seat, one of the drivers in a lower team or a GP2 driver?

Kovalainen

to take Perez' seat.. Alguersuari to take Kobayashis!

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:15

Duke said:
I wonder who will take the Sauber seat, one of the drivers in a lower team or a GP2 driver?

In with a chance is Kova and jamie but if MSC doesn't drive for them I'm hoping someone in GP2 gets it.. Max chilton?

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:22

deuse said:
No one here is trying to convince you. They are stating facts when you are stating an opinion.
Your opinion does not match up with the facts and never will.

Fact is Brawn has done not a lot since leaving Ferrari, considering he has had the backing of Honda and Mercedes.

If you can't accept that then prove otherwise.

arknor · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:28

Panzerbjorn said:
Haven't Merc been recovering from all of the cuts a few years back?

they recovred from them ages ago the factory levels were already back up near the start of 2011.

sauber confirmed they are interested in michael

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:29

Mr Men said:
Fact is Brawn has done not a lot since leaving Ferrari, considering he has had the backing of Honda and Mercedes.

If you can't accept that then prove otherwise.

The facts are that Ferrari has done way less then Brawn GP in the last 4 years

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:30

deuse said:
The facts are that Ferrari has done way less then Brawn GP in the last 4 years

I think you will find you would be wrong

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:31

Mr Men said:
I think you will find you would be wrong

Go on then

Oh I see..your going to say the wcc that was gifted to them?

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:34

deuse said:
Go on then

yeah go on post your facts. Or don't you have any?

Irish_Tom · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:36

arknor said:
they recovred from them ages ago the factory levels were already back up near the start of 2011.

Ah ok.

So they finished 4th last year and could finish 4th/5th this year.

Not bad considering they've only been back to full strength for a couple of seasons, could do better.

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:38

Mr Men said:
yeah go on post your facts. Or don't you have any?

LMFAO

Mr men "it's my ball and you ant playing with it" I'm out of this Mr men(boy) is getting silly.

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:40

deuse said:
LMFAO Mr men "it's my ball and you ant playing with it" I'm out of this Mr men(boy) is getting silly.

LMFAO

deuse(less) posts something he can't back up and run's off crying

deuse · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:52

Mr Men said:
LMFAO deuse(less) posts something he can't back up and run's off crying

2008 Ferrari won the WDC gifted the wcc(so they did not win it in real tearms)
2009 Brawn GP won the WDC and the WCC fair and square.

So that's 2 to Brawn GP and 1 to ferrari. So facts are Brawn done better.

Mr Men · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:56

deuse said:
2008 Ferrari won the WDC gifted the wcc(so they did not win it in real tearms)
2009 Brawn GP won the WDC and the WCC fair and square.

So that's 2 to Brawn GP and 1 to ferrari. So facts are Brawn done better.

Ferrari did win it on real terms though, I thought you were posting facts? And if you are going to post facts at least get them right, Lewis won the WDC in 2008, Ferrari won the WCC.

So your base of who has done more in 4 years is just on titles? that's pretty shallow really and pretty primary school level of looking at things.

arknor · 1 Oct 2012 at 13:58

deuse said:
The facts are that Ferrari has done way less then Brawn GP in the last 4 years

brawn wasnt even the genius who turned around ferrari it was todt