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hardocp 2900xt xfire review

[H] has lost a lot of face over the last year or so. So much so, that it is usually the last place I go to when something new comes out and never visit the site just to browse.
 
BubbySoup said:
[H] has lost a lot of face over the last year or so. So much so, that it is usually the last place I go to when something new comes out and never visit the site just to browse.

The Conroe incident was horrendous.
 
jaykay said:
What happened???
If memory serves me right... they did a full gaming benchmark review of the Conroe on a graphics card that bottlenecked, therefore all the results no matter what CPU was used was the same. They could have thrown any high end CPU in there for comparison and it wouldn't have made a difference. So they said that Conroe is great because it's was like half the price of the AMD equivalent at the time and performed on par... which was obvious because the graphics card was maxxed out. The only difference was their apples thing when they used a much lower res and the CPU actually had some work to do.
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Looks to me like they stuffed the review up royally

Why do you care anyway? You've got an xfire setup, you sound more than happy with it, and that's all that really matters imo.

It's just another geeky hardware site, and most of em are in somebody's pockets these days anyway :( You can only really trust sources like this forum, and even then you have to be careful.

Go enjoy the cards and stop worrying about it ;)
 
flibby said:
If memory serves me right... they did a full gaming benchmark review of the Conroe on a graphics card that bottlenecked, therefore all the results no matter what CPU was used was the same. They could have thrown any high end CPU in there for comparison and it wouldn't have made a difference. So they said that Conroe is great because it's was like half the price of the AMD equivalent at the time and performed on par... which was obvious because the graphics card was maxxed out. The only difference was their apples thing when they used a much lower res and the CPU actually had some work to do.

Yup, then they started banning people on their forums who were saying the review was flawed. :confused:
 
flibby said:
If memory serves me right... they did a full gaming benchmark review of the Conroe on a graphics card that bottlenecked, therefore all the results no matter what CPU was used was the same. They could have thrown any high end CPU in there for comparison and it wouldn't have made a difference. So they said that Conroe is great because it's was like half the price of the AMD equivalent at the time and performed on par... which was obvious because the graphics card was maxxed out. The only difference was their apples thing when they used a much lower res and the CPU actually had some work to do.


well thier reasoning made sense, who buys a c2d setup to game at 640x480 to make more use of the cpu and less of the gpu?
maybe now if they redid that test using current gen cards like the 8800ultra there would be a difference shown. but they were right at the time showing that gpu limitation was the key factor in games and not cpu limitation.
 
flibby said:
If memory serves me right... they did a full gaming benchmark review of the Conroe on a graphics card that bottlenecked, therefore all the results no matter what CPU was used was the same.

This was the whole point of their review though. They were pointing out that if you're a gamer playing at high resolution you shouldn't be fooled into thinking that a faster CPU is going to improve your fps since it's all on the GPU at high gameplay settings. Their reviews DO always stress the need to get the best visual quality, so I thought they had a good point in doing that review.

And if I recall correctly, they did revisit it later using SLI'd GTXs to show that when the GPU bottleneck is reduced, the Conroe DID have an impact. Again, all pretty obvious stuff, but I still felt that the review was a good way of forcing people to see that jumping on a bandwagon (i.e. C2D) doesn't always give you the best gaming performance.
 
Well you both can defend the article and HardOCP as much as you want but in reality everyone, and probably including you two, know they messed up and instead of holding their hands up and basically saying "sorry, we messed up" they started editing the article, banning people on their forums, and saying "nuh uh the gfx isn't the bottleneck!" when of course it was.
 
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[H] have been producing 'strange' reviews for ages, i don't fight for either videocard camp but that review is a stinker ....and not the first.

don't even bother taking it to the forums, you NEVER get a reply from an editor for a serious question. all they ever to do is pander to the numerous [H] fanboys asking moronic questions.

most sites are on the take in one form or another, kids promised free toys for favourable reviews ...do the math.
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Hard OCP sold there soul to nvidia ages ago, just my 2p on this review. Dosn't make sense at all. Also my single 2900 seems to perform better than their 2900 X-Fire in Oblivion what's up with that, since that benchmark is moot the rest may as well be.


If you notice though the CF setup is running higher settings than the single 8800GTS hence why the single 8800GTS looks to be getting better results.

This is how Hardocp benchmark rather than just give you rather meaningless graphcs they actually sow what the maximum playable settings are.

Of course as normal for a thread on here a lot of people appear to have just replied before even reading the review. (not aimed at you tom)
 
oweneades said:
If you notice though the CF setup is running higher settings than the single 8800GTS hence why the single 8800GTS looks to be getting better results.

This is how Hardocp benchmark rather than just give you rather meaningless graphcs they actually sow what the maximum playable settings are.

Of course as normal for a thread on here a lot of people appear to have just replied before even reading the review. (not aimed at you tom)


But what about thier apple to apple test. They use the same settings but the 2900xt crossfire loses to a 8800GTs 640mb.
 
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