Harry and Meghan to resign

More regarding the disproportion, I don't hate her. I just write a lot more negative stories about her than the prince who had to pay a woman £12m to stop being called a nonce.

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It's beggars belief that she's portrayed as more damaging than ******* Andrew!?

They're both damaging, just how damaging they are isn't necessarily based on the severity of say befriending a peado and allegedly having sex with a girl he'd groomed vs being a bit of a diva and not playing ball re: the working Royal thing then just quitting the whole thing along with Harry and moving to the US.

Andrew has done plenty of damage, most of it to himself though and as a result he's no longer a working Royal and has to stay out of the limelight, it's not like Charles is personally implicated in any of it or muddied too much by it and so long as they keep him out of sight then it stays that way. They're actively courting publicity, selling media products to millions of viewers most of which are directly damaging other members of the Royal family, for example, one of them is a massive racist based on some apparent comment about the Baby's skin colour but we're not sure who; maybe Charles, maybe Camilla, maybe William etc..

Whether or not that is an issue I guess depends on your views of the Royals to some extent, I'm a bit ambivalent towards them though I think (currently) they're overall a good thing to have (even if the current generation has been a **** show), I had hoped William and Harry's generation would be a significant improvement but Meghan and Harry seem to have scuppered that. If the Royals stop being useful internationally as diplomats or in terms of projecting soft power or public opinion turns too far against them then they're out, we go to a Republic and that isn't an easy thing to reverse, we collectively lose something that has value to us.

Ostensibly it is ridiculous that there are some people just in a position like that by birthright Charles and William are essentially both billionaires now (albeit heavily restricted ones with significant duties), as part of that they need to be non-political, they need to play the game and do the diplomatic thing as briefed by the government of the day etc..

Harry is a bit of a brat and he's pretty thick too, the impression from the interviews is that Meghan didn't get much in the way of guidance from him at all, she only finds out she has to courtesy just before she's about to meet the queen then has an ad hoc lesson. Then she finds out the expectations of her as a working Royal, full calendar of unglamorous visits to community centres, schools, charities etc.. turn up for local press, meet and greet the Mayor + the head honchos of the organisations and go shake hands with the plebs.

I'm sure living in California could be seen as a better lifestyle (albeit without the status) but the problem is they don't just want to live in California, they could have got a nice house and faded from view, kept cordial relations with the family, their cottage at Kensington Palace was just over 1000sq ft, their cottage at Windsor Castle was turned into a 5 bedroom home, they could have a 5 bedroom home near LA quite easily, instead, they want the Mansion, they want to keep the status, they're not happy even at being told to stop using the HRH.

Harry and Meghan are actively undermining the very thing that allows them to sign the huge deals they have done, I know a real-life Prince from a country that no longer has a Royal Family, he has a very ordinary lifestyle but only a few generations ago his family lived in palaces and were incredibly wealthy. Being a Prince alone isn't that interesting, maybe a curiosity in some glossy magazines or social pages etc. Harry and Meghan's income is reliant on there still being a monarchy in the UK that people are curious about, Americans are super interested in it and them having a big public spat with it is a huge draw for viewers but in doing so they're adding risk to the whole institution and that's something William and Charles are going to be very sensitive to but Harry is perhaps too dumb or too selfish to care about.
 
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Have to agree with this... he should have kept quiet..



Jeremy Clarkson has never been the most subtle of writers, but his latest column has managed to exceed even his own outrage-expectations. In my view, if you want to call out the former royal couple for their excruciating and hypocritical behaviour, it pays to be everything they are not: reasonable, reserved and respectful. Fantasising about Meghan being paraded through the streets having lumps of excrement thrown at her is the very sort of thing which fuels the couple’s grievance machine, which allows them to say: see what we mean about racist Britain hating Meghan?

In truth, Netflix producers failed so miserably to demonstrate that Harry and Meghan were victims of an orchestrated hate campaign by the British tabloids that they were reduced to flashing up headlines from American publications. But Clarkson’s column will certainly be taking pride of place in the couple’s next film.

Today, however, that is not the main issue – for the debate has extended into one of free speech and Clarkson's right to cause offence. The answer is easy: of course he has that right. And having written what he did, Clarkson made an error by appearing to apologise. That is exactly what Harry and Meghan and their supporters want: for the British press, and potentially its regulators, to be so fearful of causing offence that they grovel before them.

Clarkson should have followed one of two examples. The first, like the best comedians, is to unashamedly defend his right to write what he did. The second would be to maintain a dignified silence: say nothing, or, at the very most insist that “interpretations of my column may vary”.

It isn’t just Harry and Meghan whose interests Jeremy Clarkson has helped serve by means of his apology: it is the entire liberal-Left establishment and its demented campaign against what it calls the “Right-wing press”. Is there anything more ridiculous than watching Sir Philip Pullman, for instance, mounting his high horse over Clarkson’s column? This is a man who tweeted, following the Brexit vote, “When I hear the name Boris Johnson for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp post’ come to mind as well.”

Were the liberal-Left to apply consistent standards, it would have demanded that Sir Philip’s books be removed from bookshop and library shelves, and films based on his books to be banned from television. But of course, different rules apply to “enlightened” liberal commentators, who are allowed to employ violent imagery in their arguments and brush aside complaints that they didn’t mean it literally (neither, funny enough, did Clarkson when he called for Meghan to be paraded naked through the streets).

There is nothing to be gained from paddling around in this swamp. Harry and Meghan’s campaign against Britain and its royal family can be better taken apart through forensic analysis of their claims and the hypocrisy they reveal minute by minute in their Netflix series (let’s not fall into the trap of calling it a documentary). Yes, this couple really did boast of the air miles they had run up during their relationship – while lecturing the rest of us on climate change.

Give Harry and Meghan the slightest chance to crawl onto the moral high ground and all this gets suppressed. Clarkson has handed them a PR victory by refusing to stand his own corner.
 
the palace capitulated on ngozi , but , I like to think, to snub meghan.

But then along came Meghan, who obviously used some vivid bedroom promises to turn him into a warrior of woke.
And now it seems that she has her arm so far up his *****, she can use her fingers to alter his facial expressions.
I actually feel rather sorry for him because today he’s just a glove puppet with no more control over what he says or does than Basil Brush.
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Everyone who’s my age thinks the same way.
But what makes me despair is that younger people, especially girls, think she’s pretty cool.
They think she was a prisoner of Buckingham Palace, forced to talk about nothing but embroidery and kittens.

for those that don't follow links - realised I missed a big bit - need to get acclimatized to lots of adverts, to jump, in the sun ..

That makes me even angrier. Can’t they see everything that’s happening is so very obviously pre-planned.
Leave the UK. Blame the royals. Do an interview with Oprah.
Get Basil Brush to write a book. Do a Netflix series — which should have been called A Woman, Talking B***.
I can see it clearly. The studied pauses. The mock incredulity.
And the B-movie, soap-actress, quivery-voiced, more-in-sorrow-than-anger stories that are so obviously claptrap.
Do you really think she would have entertained a move to New Zealand? That’s 13 hours away from everything.
SLAVES AND EUNUCHS
The spotlight of fame she craves so desperately would have been a 40-watt bulb, and no one would have seen it.
Nah. She was always going to end up in California.
And I can tell you, with absolute certainty, what’s coming next.
Harold’s Spare book will be released.
Then she’ll do one called I Think I May Be God. And then she’ll have exhausted the whole royal thing — so will be off.
We will see Diana-style photographs of her, all on her own, outside the Taj Mahal.
And then she will be pictured gazing into the middle distance, on the back of a playboy’s superyacht and will marry a tech billionaire and they’ll have a child called something vomitty like Peace. Or Truth.
Or Love.
Harold, meanwhile, will be stuck in California with no friends, either there or here, no family to support him and an army of young girls who’ll believe Meghan’s story that the marriage break-up was all his fault because he’s, like, you know, sooooo a man.
And the Royal Family?
She’s going to damage them — be in no doubt about that.
Because one day soon, my generation will all be dead, and we will be replaced by a new bunch who are growing up believing that Charles and William and Co are bullies who are waited on hand and foot by slaves, eunuchs and spin doctors.
Unless, of course, when Meghan takes her hand out of the ginger glove puppet, he remembers who he is and gives us “the” truth.
Not hers.
 
Clarkson is a bit of a dinosaur. Maybe if he was aware of that he might have realised that by writing what he did in a rag like the Sun he had all the makings of a combination that was going to wind up some people.

Still I would love to see the outrage on the other side if she had written the same thing about Farage, Braverman or equivalent.

If you watched the netflix stuff and got wound up, I’d stick to Hello magazine for your celeb fix.

No I have no interest and have no intention of watching anything to do with “Royals” of any flavour.
 
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Something something using three other women (one fictional) to make a point in a rant about another woman, yep totally absolutely zero % chance it's got anything to do with being a woman.

ez gotem.

Leftie lovie Miriam Margolyes said she would like Boris Johson to be castrated and was given cover by the BBC.

In reality insults and crude comments about the sexes often adopt different themes for males/ females.


Females are more likely to be attacked or shamed for their *bodies* (including by other females) hence naked walk of shame...


Males are more likely to be attacked or shamed for their *status* (including by other men) hence things like castration as this is a rather direct attack on the 'maleness' of the subject.


Regardless the current pearl clutching over Clarkson's comments is predicatelly pathetic and hypocritical.

Author Phillip Pullman fantasised about hanging Boris from a lamp post in a tweet.

“When I hear the name Boris Johnson for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp post’ come to mind as well.”


Jo Brand suggested that another politician, who had already been assaulted, should have acid thrown over him next time. The regulator took no action following complaints and the Guardian printed articles saying the reaction was 'hysterical' and she should not be taken seriously.


The BBC also provided cover ...


Frankie Boyle 'joked' about Katie Price being raped by her own disabled son.

Social media is regularly awash with 'progressives' making all sorts of threats against individuals or groups of people they don't like.

They don't tend to get prosecuted and that's probably almost universally the correct course of action.

The most devastating thing the public and press could do to Harry and Meghan is to stop taking about them and making/ watching any programs they are in.

Neither have much in the way of talent and their whole gig now is to complain about how hard done they are in their millionaire lifestyles.

Clarkson has done the pair a great service by keeping them in the press and providing a load of free press for their streaming 'documentary'.

Anyone that actually thinks that Megham isn't privately rather happy about Clarksons comments really needs to get a better understanding of how the world works.
 
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Clarksons pseudo apology is pruely to appease ITV to keep that gravey train on the tracks, its why its barely an apology, he's being forced into it, he doesn't stand by it. I read the article, not personally offensive to me, but then I can't really remember the last time a was offended. Reading some of the commentary online is ridiculous, especially from those failing to get the references. I have no strong feelings about either Clarkson or Markel, but i do believe that both are entitled to publish their opinion no matter what it is.
 
Amazing how many are sucked into the lies and garbage thrown about by the gutter press. They destroyed Diana and are trying to do the same with Harry and Meghan.

I mean, almost all of us would trade places with them, they live in a mansion in California and get paid $80m to make a Netflix documentary about how life at Buckingham Palace was so terrible. Then people like you flock to defend them. Absolute lunacy lmao
 
Clarkson is a bit of a dinosaur. Maybe if he was aware of that he might have realised that by writing what he did in a rag like the Sun he had all the makings of a combination that was going to wind up some people.

Still I would love to see the outrage on the other side if she had written the same thing about Farage, Braverman or equivalent.

If you watched the netflix stuff and got wound up, I’d stick to Hello magazine for your celeb fix.

No I have no interest and have no intention of watching anything to do with “Royals” of any flavour.

Lets not forget this man slapped an assistant because hungry.
 
Amazing how many are sucked into the lies and garbage thrown about by the gutter press. They destroyed Diana and are trying to do the same with Harry and Meghan.
Harry and Megan don't need any help they are destroying themselves just fine.

Megan is a despicable person and yes I believe the bullying claims against her and the accusation of her throwing a cup of tea over one of the staff.

It's not just since she became a royal, stories about her nature have surfaced from way back.

The clincher for me though was that fake curtsey she done, she was utterly vicious with that, even Harrys face said it all.

When you see them meeting people etc you can clearly see her barging in front of Harry to get there first, this is her, it's all me me me with her.

Harry will wake up one day, but by then it might be too late.
 
No he didnt

Ah yes you are right.

It was actually a producer who he actually racially abused and punched. So not just a slap.


Wow.


  • Trolls have launched campaign of abuse aimed at producer Oisin Tymon
  • 'Bring Back Clarkson' petition already has 800,000-plus online signatures
  • Top Gear fans used messages to threaten to attack Tymon and his family
  • His email address is being circulated by fans who say he should be sacked
  • Mr Tymon allegedly 'smacked' by Clarkson over lack of hot food at hotel
  • Family in same hotel said they were shocked by length and ferocity of rant
  • Bob Ward said: 'He was saying: 'This is not ******* good enough. This is typical of the ******* BBC'
  • Called boss Danny Cohen and 'admitted he forcibly manhandled' producer
  • Presenter's BBC disciplinary hearing likely to be held at hotel next week
  • Corporation apologises to viewers over cancelling Top Gear episodes
 
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Meghan is all controlling Harry. If Harry married somebody else, he would not be acting like this.
someone needs to stage an intervention and deprogram him from coercive control - demeghanization - like the Ipcress files ?

( could be a new contender in todays World Cup of Random English Words Round of 16: ?
Flounce v Flibbertigibbet
Cantankerous v Shenanigans
B*****ks v Mellifluous
Discombobulate v Rhubarb
Codswallop v Noggin
Whippersnapper v Scallywag
Scurrilous v Balderdash
Snuggle v Higgledy-piggledy )
 
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