Has making a pass at a woman just become illegal?

StriderX said:
I don't think that has much relevance to the fact that women are constantly harassed and almost all of them are traumatised by it even if they don't notice.
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There is a balance to it - I've been a bit leery to post about it but I've seen race and gender related issues increasingly weaponised against inconvenient/undesirable behaviour rather than where there is necessarily something wrong.

I think bris is completely right in that it is getting out of hand and kids are being almost brainwashed into a certain type of thinking where they have no ability to separate between where wrong/offence is actually intended or not. That isn't to say innocent/unthought behaviours can't/aren't a problem also and something I think is very important to raise awareness of in the workplace.

Far too often with these topics I just put my head in my hands at how stupid the whole thing has become with people becoming increasingly polarised into opposing camps and that doesn't help anyone.
 
StriderX said:
I don't think that has much relevance to the fact that women are constantly harassed and almost all of them are traumatised by it even if they don't notice.
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I know this isn't Speakers Corner but I think you need to cite a source suggesting almost all women are traumatised even if they don't notice.

That's almost telling women that they should and need to feel traumatised when they, themselves, say they aren't....
 
Richie said:
I know this isn't Speakers Corner but I think you need to cite a source suggesting almost all women are traumatised even if they don't notice.

That's almost telling women that they should and need to feel traumatised when they, themselves, say they aren't....
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Whilst I don't entirely know if such studies are flawed or not the statistics for women who acknowledge they've been harassed in public remain reasonably believable on a personal level. I think that having such an encounter would be characterised as trauma, sadly I think many just accept it since justice is near impossible and made all the more difficult when the arbiters of the law are themselves highly suspect.
 
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StriderX said:
Whilst I don't entirely know if such studies are flawed or not the statistics for women who acknowledge they've been harassed in public remain reasonably believable on a personal level. I think that having such an encounter would be characterised as trauma, sadly I think many just accept it since justice is near impossible and made all the more difficult when the arbiters of the law are themselves highly suspect.
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able to link any of these 'studies'?
 
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StriderX said:
I don't think that has much relevance to the fact that women are constantly harassed and almost all of them are traumatised by it even if they don't notice.
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I think you would have me seeking the girl out who gently moved my hands off her arse on that Manchester dance floor to make "reparations" :)
 
Some male behaviour have got out of hand mainly because of the lack of male bonding and socialising.

The ironic thing is some feminists have discouraged good male behaviour as they have made it look patronising.

There is a risk of being insulted if you open a door for a woman. So gradually men have stopped doing it.

Men can only be corrected by other men.
 
BowdonUK said:
There is a risk of being insulted if you open a door for a woman. So gradually men have stopped doing it.
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I like to hold a door open, after I've been through, for anybody. But then I like to see them run/not run as if they're catching a bus.

There is an optimum time and distance for this, otherwise you just look like a doorman.
 
bris said:
My kids have gone all PC on me, everything is now politically correct and and very PC with them, its all transgender this and LGBTQ (or whatever it is) that.

Not saying there is anything wrong with that, I'm all for a persons right to be what they want to be, but its a bit to much now when you cant say the wrong thing, which wasn't wrong not to long ago, without getting lambasted.

"Woke" seems to be the new buzz word.
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You can be anything you want, and i can insult you or make offensive jokes, you need both sides to have a proper world.

Political correctness is basically a complete intolerance for any insults, any jokes, any criticism.

If you think there is nothing wrong with that you are not thinking it through properly

"The term political correctness first appeared in Marxist–Leninist vocabulary following the Russian Revolution of 1917. At that time, it was used to describe strict adherence to the policies and principles of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, that is, the party line"

"In 1934 The New York Times reported that Nazi Germany was granting reporting permits "only to pure 'Aryans' whose opinions are politically correct""
 
Malevolence said:
I always hold the door open, and 99% of the time I just get a 'thank you' or 'cheers duck'. On the occasions I get a whinging femherroid with an attitude problem they get a quick "**** you then".
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I have found an effective reply to those women who harangue you for holding a door open or offering them a seat is to just say, "I am sorry if I offended you, I was taught to always do that for elderly people". Works best in a loud voice on the 45 to 60 age groups.
 
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bris said:
My kids have gone all PC on me, everything is now politically correct and and very PC with them, its all transgender this and LGBTQ (or whatever it is) that.

Not saying there is anything wrong with that, I'm all for a persons right to be what they want to be, but its a bit to much now when you cant say the wrong thing, which wasn't wrong not to long ago, without getting lambasted.

"Woke" seems to be the new buzz word.
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Welcome to my world.

My son was hilariously over the top on this a few years back, so I just used it to wind him up.

The highlight was when he told me he was "boycotting The Smiths, as Morrissey's views are problematic". When I asked him what, specifically, Morrissey had said, he didn't know. There was a bit of an awkward silence at that point...
 
BowdonUK said:
There is a risk of being insulted if you open a door for a woman. So gradually men have stopped doing it.
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I hold the door for anyone if they are close by, and i have never once had a negative reaction.

I imagine the amount of women who would genually kick up a fuss at having someone politely hold a door for them is infinitesimally small.
 
Jono8 said:
I hold the door for anyone if they are close by, and i have never once had a negative reaction.

I imagine the amount of women who would genually kick up a fuss at having someone politely hold a door for them is infinitesimally small.
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I've had it off women on 2 occasions and a disabled bloke.
He got a bit upset when I told him it was a shame he didn't lose both legs instead of just the one (he was using crutches).
 
Chris Wilson said:
I am not so sure, I have received some grief quite a few times now for holding doors, and once for offering some woman a seat in a busy pub.
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Jono8 said:
I hold the door for anyone if they are close by, and i have never once had a negative reaction.

I imagine the amount of women who would genually kick up a fuss at having someone politely hold a door for them is infinitesimally small.
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I've had poor reactions for doing it, so I don't bother any more. Would still do it for older people though, they seem to appreciate it.
 
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Jono8 said:
I hold the door for anyone if they are close by, and i have never once had a negative reaction.

I imagine the amount of women who would genually kick up a fuss at having someone politely hold a door for them is infinitesimally small.
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I got through 30 years of holding the door open for anyone who was following me out of the same door without incident until one occasion at a train station WH Smiths where I was loudly verbally admonished by a short lady with purple hair for even thinking about holding it open for her. I often wonder what her mindset was/is.
 
BowdonUK said:
There is a risk of being insulted if you open a door for a woman. So gradually men have stopped doing it.

Men can only be corrected by other men.
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That makes no sense... Surely if you suggest that men's behaviours have changed in a negative way due to women's actions, then this can be corrected by women not acting in that way? :confused:


The rest of your post I don't disagree with. I haven't experienced it myself but too much anecdotal evidence suggests it is possible
 
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