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Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

Mal X said:
yes i do; it's you that's talking rubbish, my old rig is miles more powerful than that and it's struggling already on 1080p........... to get it to play Metro most of the settings are on Medium.....FACT...... because If i turn it up to Ultra i'm on about 30fps or less
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So, everyone using a 7950 is having to play at medium details on every game at 1080p is basically what you're saying? As 600 quid can get you an R9 280 system.
 
mmj_uk said:
This thread should just be closed tbh and make a new one without all of the ****, 16 pages of drivel for the most part and hardly any mention of Haswell-E beyond ALXAndy (a notorious AMD fanboy) telling us why we shouldn't buy it. :p
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He says, contributing fittingly to the drivel. :rolleyes:
 
no, i have a Sapphire Dual X 7970 overclocked.... cpu at 4.6 and it's still turned down to medium in Metro.......FACT, it's also medium in Wolfensein, my rig hates that game

but i've always had something wrong with my rig...this is why i'm replacing the SSD/ Mobo

it's history

1........Steam imported from win XP, BY THE SHOP, NOT ME, i gutted it but the backup files are still there, they wont go

2......my Steam logon is at least 7 of me, i keep forgetting the password, steam thinks i'm on a home network

3......pc takes about 2 mins to start up, about the time to boil a kettle

4.....it keeps flashing up the AS rock menu, OC stuff at start up, it also flashes up Windows.... goes black.... comes back again...goes black...comes back............3 times a week it shuts down, then restarts

5.....mobo deffo has a fault.... 1st PCI slot is broken, but that's only recently

6.....the shop told me :- ``this 2nd ASrock mobo looks faulty as well``....i've fitted it, but if i was you i'd replace it with a more well known brand.....it's behaving strangely, this was two years ago !!!!

7.....my Seagate hybrid hard drive gets a really bad review, it's even slower than a solid state one !!!!

i know i should start from scratch with a brand new upload, but i deffo want to copy my games over because this lot is too much to download

but i love this old rig so i deffo want to keep it, but it looks like it needs a bit of work
 
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ALXAndy said:
You need masses of power for Metro. Don't forget to patch it though, stops the 0 FPS bugs..

I struggled through it on 670 SLI and a FX 8320 clocked to 4.2ghz. Absolutely stunning game but yeah, eats rigs alive.

Most important part ? cores. The game just wants as many as you've got.
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take a look at my latest post please
 
I don't care what your results are in Metro, it's hardly relative of performance across the board!
And then you bring up that your PC's funky anyways?!

Come on man!

The 7970 isn't miles apart from a 7950 when both overclocked either!
 
Martini1991 said:
I don't care what your results are in Metro, it's hardly relative of performance across the board!
And then you bring up that your PC's funky anyways?!

Come on man!

The 7970 isn't miles apart from a 7950 when both overclocked either!
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yes it is...... because my screwed up PC might be causing the problems, so it's very relevant to mention it

i dont think it's the GPU, it's the MOBO......the rubbish SSD.....and a few bugs in Steam.

you're not a very helpful guy, but Andy is....so i'm talking to him, you can clear off and stop causing trouble around here
 
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I never said mentioning your problems wasn't relevant, but you're talking Metro results like they're definitive of performance across the board.

You've just said that spending 600 pound on a PC would give a sub-par experience, when it couldn't be further from the truth.
If you want to throw your toys out of the pram, be my guest.

That's ignoring how little sense you make, take your 7th point about your SSHD (Firstly, I've used a later iteration of Seagate's SSHD, and I was pretty impressed). You say "It's even slower than a solid state one". It was never meant to be faster than one. Your point makes no sense.
 
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Martini1991 said:
I never said mentioning your problems wasn't relevant, but you're talking Metro results like they're definitive of performance across the board.

You've just said that spending 600 pound on a PC would give a sub-par experience, when it couldn't be further from the truth.
If you want to throw your toys out of the pram, be my guest.

That's ignoring how little sense you make, take your 7th point about your SSHD (Firstly, I've used a later iteration of Seagate's SSHD, and I was pretty impressed). You say "It's even slower than a solid state one". It was never meant to be faster than one. Your point makes no sense.
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yes it does, it makes a lot of sense.... because the idiot that sold it to me said it was much faster than my existing Western Digital ( 2010) , but it's only 2 days ago that i found out just how useless it is
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=Seagate+ST950056+20AS

this isn't the actual review...the other one said it was much worst, very slow read and write time, but this isn't the only fault, it's a combination of other things as well.

that's enough now.... no more posts here or we'll get into trouble, we're way off topic so i wont reply any more to this
 
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Do you guys reckon its worth waiting till next month for the new kit namely 5820k/X99/DDR4 or go with a 4790k/z97 system ?

Will be doing virtual machines 2-3 wanna play with unix/openbsd etc but also do multi-tasking and may do gaming in future.

Also is it true 5820k will cost £300-400 ?
 
R3X said:
Do you guys reckon its worth waiting till next month for the new kit namely 5820k/X99/DDR4 or go with a 4790k/z97 system ?

Will be doing virtual machines 2-3 wanna play with unix/openbsd etc but also do multi-tasking and may do gaming in future.

Also is it true 5820k will cost £300-400 ?
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Yeah if you're not in a rush def wait and see how the pricing is at launch. So far DDR4 pricing looks like it isn't as bad as the nay sayers were saying. Plus 5820K looks like it could have great performance for the price.

With the mainstream Z97 looking like it will be limited to 4 cores with IGPU, I would say X99 + 5820K would be the better buy, X99 as a platform should have longevity. Option to upgrade to more efficient 6/8 cores later on with Broadwell -E.
 
Looking at the specs of the 5820K, it should be as near as makes no difference the same performance as the 4930K in stock form (IB-E to HW-E IPC bump being offset by lower clocks), and quad DDR4 will have no advantage over quad DDR3 except in the rarest of synthetic compute tasks so I think I will stick with my X79 setup and skip X99 (which makes sense as this product cycle is targeting X58 users not me).


Orangey said:
Bottom line AMD are extremely competitive in GPUs yet the CPU division is close to being shuttered.
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Which is kind of comical as they bought a failing GPU company (ATi) back when they were a very competitive CPU company. Oh well at least they can claimed they turned things around across the board lol.
 
ubersonic said:
Looking at the specs of the 5820K, it should be as near as makes no difference the same performance as the 4930K in stock form (IB-E to HW-E IPC bump being offset by lower clocks), and quad DDR4 will have no advantage over quad DDR3 except in the rarest of synthetic compute tasks so I think I will stick with my X79 setup and skip X99 (which makes sense as this product cycle is targeting X58 users not me).




Which is kind of comical as they bought a failing GPU company (ATi) back when they were a very competitive CPU company. Oh well at least they can claimed they turned things around across the board lol.
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5820 has 15MB of L3 (shared) cache. Coupled with the IPC increase from IVY-Haswell, it will outperform it for sure.
 
Dave2150 said:
5820 has 15MB of L3 (shared) cache. Coupled with the IPC increase from IVY-Haswell, it will outperform it for sure.
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Sorry but no, the IPC increase is not enough to beat the clock speed advantage and the cache effect is almost non existent.

To explain that, the 4930K has 12MB and the 4960X has 15MB, clock for clock the is basically no difference. As for the Haswell IPC advantage over IB, that can already be seen by comparing the 3770K/4770K, the additional IPC is not enough to beat the additional 300MHz the 4930K has over the 5820K.

They will perform about the same.
 
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Haswell -E with newer chipset / motherboard design, DDR4 and support for 14nm later on is the most appealing out of all the options for sure.

For those that are happy on what they already have that's great. Doesn't mean they need to keep telling everyone else about it, god knows there is enough of that in this thread already :P. For most people X99 represents the most interesting Intel line up in years, me included and I'm happy with Z97 + 4790K. I will move up to X99 at some point.
 
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