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Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

For anyone more intelligent than myself. Can we expect the new Haswell-E's to outperform the 4790k on a gaming stand point? The clock speeds are lower but haswell e does have the new chipset going for it.
 
Historically speaking no.

I.E X58 i7's were not quite as good for gaming as P55, X79 i7's were not quite as good as the P67/Z68/Z77/etc ones, etc. It's only a slight difference but it was there (assuming your not using like 4 GPU's ofc then X79 all the way.

The only way the new HW-E CPU's are going to be outperforming a 4790K is iff the game bottlenecks on a 4c8t CPU at max settings, which means it would also bottleneck on every single CPU AMD sell, it would be pretty suicidal for a developer to make a game that needs a >£270 CPU to max out the settings.
 
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ubersonic I myself am interested in overclocking 6 core one WITHOUT HT just pure core power. Turning off HT shaves around 10c that would be a nice upgrade from 2500k. Assuming it would clock to 4.7ghz that is.
I am talking 3D gaming tho :P
 
ubersonic said:
The only way the new HW-E CPU's are going to be outperforming a 4790K is iff the game bottlenecks on a 4c8t CPU at max settings, which means it would also bottleneck on every single CPU AMD sell, it would be pretty suicidal for a developer to make a game that needs a >£270 CPU to max out the settings.
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Well, some devs like to add scope to their engines by overbuilding them (Crysis), some just don't do enough "optimization" (ugh I hate that word), but I think the extra PCIE lanes at least are timely due to all the extra data being pushed over the bus these days (XDMA, Shadowplay etc).
 
jamie1414 said:
For anyone more intelligent than myself. Can we expect the new Haswell-E's to outperform the 4790k on a gaming stand point? The clock speeds are lower but haswell e does have the new chipset going for it.
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ubersonic said:
Historically speaking no.

I.E X58 i7's were not quite as good for gaming as P55, X79 i7's were not quite as good as the P67/Z68/Z77/etc ones, etc. It's only a slight difference but it was there (assuming your not using like 4 GPU's ofc then X79 all the way.

The only way the new HW-E CPU's are going to be outperforming a 4790K is iff the game bottlenecks on a 4c8t CPU at max settings, which means it would also bottleneck on every single CPU AMD sell, it would be pretty suicidal for a developer to make a game that needs a >£270 CPU to max out the settings.
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+1 to what ubersonic wrote, if you just want a gaming PC Z97 + an i5 or i7 will be fine. Another way to look at it it this though, with Mantle and Direct X12 looking to remove the CPU as a bottleneck for gaming, it could be argued that any modern CPU is good enough for gaming.

If you have any other uses for your PC, workstation environment, maybe movie encoding and benchmarking etc then X99 will absolutely be far better than the mainstream 4 core CPU's. It's also guaranteed some healthy longevity being DDR4 compatible and support 14nm CPU's later on. All things considered if I was looking to start a build soon X99 is the way to go, even if just the cheaper 5820K plus maybe 8GB DDR4 just to get onto the platform. Then later on when prices settle pick up a larger amount of better spec DDR4 etc.
 
well the X99 platform is quad channel, if I choose to go down the X99 route it will probably be with 16GB in a 4x4GB configuration to start with.
 
I find it really odd that people who only game are interested in this
Also that game benchmarks are being used to judge it
 
I'm on z87 and 4770k and was debating switching to x99 but I reckon that for now, especially that I've only got one gpu, I'm going to stick with what I've got.
but as soon as I can afford another gpu, x99 and 5930k, I'll switch.
 
More PCI-E lanes from what I can remember, would need to check but I don't think the cheaper CPU will give you 2x 16lane PCI-E for SLI/Crossfire.
 
That MSI looks BOOM !! Boom ;) :D

Loving the work they have been putting into there boards recently. All the z87 , x79 onwards to present have been amazing in all areas.
 
Martini1991 said:
Is the 5820 confirmed to be 6 core? I'd jump at one if it's anywhere near 300 quid.
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I'm hoping sub £300, 8 cores reserved for the X version is dissapointing but could be tempted by a 6 core for sub £300. RAM looks like it will be reasonable so unless motherboard prices are silly a sub £300 cpu would seal it for me.

Then just save for an 8 core version and quicker RAM while the prices come down on the faster stuff.
 
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