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Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

I'm confused... How do we know this isn't just some guy, posting some rubbish, on some forum? :p
 
The IPC from Sandy to Haswell is about 10%, couple that with big reduction in power use. Plus support for DDR4 and future CPU's it's def the -E platform to go for..

If you buy into x99 -E at 5820K say 16GB DDR4 and decent Mobo, price won't be that bad VS say 3930K / 4930K 16GB DDR3 and X79 mobo was at launch.
 
10% IPC gain on a good day (depends upon applications), coupled with 10% loss in overclocking = Zero gain?

DDR4 specs ain't that good either when you look at it like this:
DDR 400 > DDR2 800 > DDR3 1600 > DDR4 3200? - nope , not looking good.
 
zoomee said:
10% IPC gain on a good day (depends upon applications), coupled with 10% loss in overclocking = Zero gain?

DDR4 specs ain't that good either when you look at it like this:
DDR 400 > DDR2 800 > DDR3 1600 > DDR4 3200? - nope , not looking good.
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Yeah that's true, but no reason these 6 cores won't reach decent clocks. Only the 8 core will be iffy due to heat etc when overclocking.

The benefit of DDR4 isn't just the speed but much lower voltage. First new ram spec is always around the top speed of last DDR format. So although DDR4 might come in at 2133mhz. Over time it will become way way faster than DDR3.

5820K + say 16GB DDR4 2133mhz will be a good entry level into X99 setup. Then later on when DDR4 prices settle and higher speed is available at least would have the option to use it in X99..
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yeah that's true, but no reason these 6 cores won't reach decent clocks. Only the 8 core will be iffy due to heat etc when overclocking.

The benefit of DDR4 isn't just the speed but much lower voltage. First new ram spec is always around the top speed of last DDR format. So although DDR4 might come in at 2133mhz. Over time it will become way way faster than DDR3.

5820K + say 16GB DDR4 2133mhz will be a good entry level into X99 setup. Then later on when DDR4 prices settle and higher speed is available at least would have the option to use it in X99..
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Indeed, when you consider it went from DDR2 800 to DDR3 1066. Wouldn't be surprised if we get to 2600MHz easy like 1600MHz DDR3 was at the time.
 
ddr4 wont be worth it for some time yet. when ddr4 hits you better dig deep in your wallet. It'll cost double I bet when it first hits. You know the milking will begin for sure.
 
Boomstick777 said:
The benefit of DDR4 isn't just the speed but much lower voltage. First new ram spec is always around the top speed of last DDR format. So although DDR4 might come in at 2133mhz. Over time it will become way way faster than DDR3.
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The thing is though, if you can't do it with four channels of DDR3, then you can't do it with two channels of DDR4 either, so basically DDR5 is going to be here before anything non synthetic is having memory bandwidth issues on X79, which means with six IB-E cores clocked at 4.5GHz I should be good for quite a few years :D
 
ubersonic said:
The thing is though, if you can't do it with four channels of DDR3, then you can't do it with two channels of DDR4 either, so basically DDR5 is going to be here before anything non synthetic is having memory bandwidth issues on X79, which means with six IB-E cores clocked at 4.5GHz I should be good for quite a few years :D
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Yeah I think any decent Intel chip from the past few years will be good for a long while yet, especially with new API's looking to reduce CPU overhead, but how many of us upgrade when we need to.. Most of us here want overkill lol. The latest and greatest. I don't think anybody needs a 5960X. Not gonna stop people buying it anyway lol.

For benching and workstation stuff Haswell -E is going to a beast.
 
There's been a lot of speculation that the 5820K won't have HyperThreading (which would be a disaster).

My take:

No way they cut HT from it. Performance would be dire relative to price in a lot of software and load conditions, since most highly threaded software is written to expect Hyperthreading / 8+ threads from Intel chips and has been for a long time.



Anyway, overall this is by far the best news from Intel in a very, very long time.

The PCI-e gimping is actually fairly welcome, given that some kind of gimping was expected. It won't be an option for people wanting 4 or more GPUs, but people wanting some CPU grunt and only 1 or 2 GPUs - great. Hopefully it'll actually encourage mobo makers to produce a broader range of more affordable boards, too, since the bottom part should be massively more popular than the 2 that preceeded it (3820k and 4820k).

My only hope is that they don't price gouge as much as they are with Ivy-E ... price increases for a much, much cheaper to produce (than Sandy-E) CPU series.
 
I dont get where this idea that ddr4 is going to be expensive comes from, sure its the new tech but whos to say that they arent stockpiling millions of dimms at the moment.
 
Its not that DDR4 will be expensive, more like fast DDR4 will be. DDR4 will start off at 2133 MHz at prices typical of what 1600/1833 MHz is now at, and faster ram now will be likely much higher than the equivalent DDR3. Once the process matures, you will likely see 3000-4000 MHz ram at the same prices as 1833/2100 MHz DDR3 now.
 
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