Have things got out of hand?

asim18 said:
Then why say anything at all? Especially a cocky comment like his.

Something obviously provoked him to express his feelings.
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because somebody wearing full gear wasn't searched when he was? you did read the story, didn't you? Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be taking this a little personally? It's not a race thing so we really shouldn't be trying to make it one.


“I repeated to her [the security officer] what I had said and told her that I had said nothing racist,” he said. “She took my passport and boarding pass and I was then escorted back through the security zone into the outer area. Here the female security guard proceeded to question me further, inferring many things that I had not said.
“It was impossible to get her to listen to reason. We were then joined by a second female security guard who stated that she was Muslim and was deeply distressed by my comment.
“I again stated that I had not made a racist remark but purely an observation that we were in a maximum security situation being searched thoroughly whilst a woman with her face covered walked through. I made no reference to race or religion. I did not swear or raise my voice.”
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Reads to me like the muslim security gaurd tried to make it personal, and racist, when it clearly wasn't. Just like you're doing now.
 
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james.miller said:
because somebody wearing full gear wasn't searched when he was? you did read the story, didn't you? Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be taking this a little personally? It's not a race thing so we really shouldn't be trying to make it one.





Reads to me like the muslim security gaurd tried to make it personal, and racist, when it clearly wasn't. Just like you're doing now.
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"because somebody wearing full gear wasn't searched when he was?"

He was searched because he set off the metal detector. She wasn't searched because she didn't set off the metal detector, it really is as simple as that.

"Maximum security situation" is his opinion James. If someone walks through metal detectors without setting them off they are typically not scrutinized further. (I've been through the same checkpoint many times). This woman walked through without setting off the detector and carried on, simple.
 
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asim18 said:
"Maximum security situation" is his opinion James.
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Yes, and until you hear another version of events that's all you have to go by. So what there tells you that he clearly (your words) had something against her? Or are you just assuming so because it's easier to be mad at the white man who asked why the muslim in a full hijab wasn't searched?
 
As much as he completely missed the point about security not actually being a point where you need to identify yourself.

Dr House said:
I wonder if they can legally detain him when clearly no crime has been committed.
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There does indeed seem to be an issue of illegal detention here.
 
james.miller said:
Yes, and until you hear another version of events that's all you have to go by. So what there tells you that he clearly (your words) had something against her? Or are you just assuming so because it's easier to be mad at the white man who asked why the muslim in a full hijab wasn't searched?
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Please stop it. That's the third time you're implying some sort of Muslim vs White thing.

If he didn't have anything against her being let through without further checks then he would have kept his mouth shut and this never would have even happened!

Please try to make sense of my posts before just shouting out "Muslim vs white" or whatever.

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Or are you just assuming so because it's easier to be mad at the white man who asked why the muslim in a full hijab wasn't searched?
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For the third time, Because she didn't set off the metal detectors, she had every right to be let through just like anyone else who didn't set off the metal detector, regardless of facial visibility since this isn't passport control.
 
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He wasn't racist against a Muslim women at all, he simply made a comment that he probably shouldn't have, like he said, he made no reference to her religion.

I read something in the newspaper about a kid who got beaten up by a "group of asians" couldn't the newspaper have just said a "group of youths" no, they couldn't the media loves using the race card, and whether you think so or not, everyone has some level of racism in them
 
asim18 said:
Something obviously provoked him to express his feelings.
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Nope I see this almost every single day.

“I asked the security guard if she was going to charge me to which she said no but I could not leave until I had apologised to the Muslim guard.

He was naive, nothing more. Just about every single airport I've used of the london variety has an asian to white security guard of about 5 to 1. He was asking for trouble but there was nothing racist in his comment.

I regularly see one of my colleagues or myself get stopped searched, shoes off, bags emptied. Stuff like jam confiscated because it's a liquid while someone else of asian decent brings through milk for their tea or doesn't even get properly searched when the scanner goes off.

You quickly learn to shut up and take it.

Airport security are for the most part retarded **** wit bullies. CHIRP our confidential reporting system for engineers/pilots/cabin crew etc has more reports of Airport security bullying and intimidation than any other problem.

Captains being refused a deodorant stick because it can be melted down into a liquid. Now if anyone can explain the logic in that one I'd be pleased to hear it.
 
The hijab is a religious observance, it has nothing to do with race, for all he knew it could have been a western convert under that veil.

If you can't stand people making comments about your dress then don't dress in a way that stands out, I believe every western girl makes an effort to wear a headscarf when visiting a Muslim country, but in this country overt demonstrations of belief are not pandered too. You can't even wear a cross if you work in the NHS.

If as they admitted it "could" have appeared racist then equally it may also "not have" appeared racist to others, I don't expect airport security to be guardians of the English language.
 
Hmm, I'm in two minds... According to the Government, in schools, something is racist if anyone may find it offensive on the grounds of race. Which I guess this qualifies as. Saying that I think that's a ridiculous definition...

It is true that what he said wasnt particluarly based on race, but yeah....

What would be more interesting is if one of his daughters had walked through with a hijab, as presumably they're white, and see if they were challenged if she claimed they were Muslim.... But yeah, basically I'd me more curious if a white women may be more likely to be challenged for wearing a hijab than a non-white women, as obviously both could be Muslim.

As to the original comment though, I'm yeah, unsure as to whether it is racist, but can see how it could be misinterpreted as such, even though im not sure it should have been,but generally thinking it is a bit too extreme.

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