Heinz - awful products

mattyfez said:
Heinz is generally pretty rubbish, IMO.

Croos&blackwell and several other tinned soups are much better. I actually avoid Heinz these days as it's always dissappointing and over priced. Same with ketchup and beans.
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The few tins of soup I have are bought from places like B&M etc as do different soups to what you see in supermarkets.

Are these the soups you are talking about?

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Rarely see the others, bar chicken and veg, winter veg and beef n veg in supermarkets. But seen the others in B&M, Home Bargains and the like. Ham Hock and veg is good.
 
Huxton said:
Aldi's chunky soups are pretty much the same, but better than the Heinz Big Soup tins, but a lot cheaper at 70p. They do Minted Lamb, Beef & Veg and Chicken & Veg.
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The minted lamb was interesting. Others were still only a close second, I'm afraid. Other than that, Aldis just don't have room to stock a wider range of stuff.
I don't object to their stuff, but Heinz is still better... especially if you only bother with the ones that are on sale/bulk discount.
 
ttaskmaster said:
The minted lamb was interesting. Others were still only a close second, I'm afraid. Other than that, Aldis just don't have room to stock a wider range of stuff.
I don't object to their stuff, but Heinz is still better... especially if you only bother with the ones that are on sale/bulk discount.
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They are not £1.30 better (£2 for a tin). Aldi coming in at 70p it's a no brainer. Also reviews for the Heinz says a lot.

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cheesefest said:
The few tins of soup I have are bought from places like B&M etc as do different soups to what you see in supermarkets.

Are these the soups you are talking about?

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Rarely see the others, bar chicken and veg, winter veg and beef n veg in supermarkets. But seen the others in B&M, Home Bargains and the like. Ham Hock and veg is good.
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Those soups are bloody lovely. The cream of chicken is the best out there by miles. Some of the others are so chunky, they’re more like little cans of stew. Lovely lunch with buttered bread.
 
Huxton said:
They are not £1.30 better (£2 for a tin). Aldi coming in at 70p it's a no brainer. Also reviews for the Heinz says a lot.
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Like I said, the trick is to get them on sale for about a quid, which they pretty much always are at one supermarket or another.
Can't say those reviews reflect my experiences, either, as they've always been like stew for me and have pretty hefty chunks of meat in all the ones I've had. I generally have one soup a day, and it's a Big Soup two or three times a week.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Like I said, the trick is to get them on sale for about a quid, which they pretty much always are at one supermarket or another.
Can't say those reviews reflect my experiences, either, as they've always been like stew for me and have pretty hefty chunks of meat in all the ones I've had. I generally have one soup a day, and it's a Big Soup two or three times a week.
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They are never on sale for £1 though (or very rarely), it's usually 3 for £5 etc (currently at Tesco but with Clubcard only, Icelands too) I've not seen them on sale for £1 for ages, before the Pandemic anyway. Whereas Aldi is always the same price, every time and the soups are barely any different to each other. Most of these foods are produced in the same factory anyway, just with a few very minor differences in ingredients (salt / sugar) and a different label slapped on it.

Also the fact that Heinz called these BIG in the first place because they were 500g tins, now they're 400g with lesser ingredients (meat content) and a higher price. They're just not worth it. I'd understand if they actually tasted better, but they don't.
 
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Huxton said:
They are never on sale for £1 though (or very rarely), it's usually 3 for £5 etc (currently at Tesco but with Clubcard only, Icelands too) I've not seen them on sale for £1 for ages, before the Pandemic anyway. Whereas Aldi is always the same price, every time and the soups are barely any different to each other. Most of these foods are produced in the same factory anyway, just with a few very minor differences in ingredients (salt / sugar) and a different label slapped on it.

Also the fact that Heinz called these BIG in the first place because they were 500g tins, now they're 400g with lesser ingredients (meat content) and a higher price. They're just not worth it. I'd understand if they actually tasted better, but they don't.
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They crop up sometimes, usually on an 8 for £8 deal. I think Ocado was the last one to do that? Someone somewhere always has some of the Heinz soups on bulk discount, though.
I also get discounts at certain supermarkets, but Aldi doesn't participate in such schemes...

As for taste, that's entirely subjective... unless you're talking about Richmond sausages, but not even my dog will go near those!!
 
I love these sorts of thing
Since I work directly in the supply chain of all the main manufacturers of any note I see the quality of the ingredients they buy.

Heinz stuff is still top of the league basically. M&S also.

What people get confused at, especially the OP is that their taste and what they eat influences how they perceive a product.
We have lots of old products in storage that are used to demonstrate the development.
Eg the rather popular childrens breakfast cereal that turns the milk chocolatey. The original recipe if you taste it now tastes just like sugar, far far too sweet. Sensory analysis from back then said it was "about right".
Now the current one is "about right" and the older ones are far too sweet. But thats been done in steps.

I guess we should can all that expensive development all the manufacturers do, along with the sensory panels etc and employ shelf stackers in product development ;)

TBH just buy what you like, if it suits your taste then buy that.
I mean in plenty of cases the brands are demonstratably better quality but if you prefer asda smart price buy that. Just watch the ingredients for some products.
The other thing to consider is that its constantly evolving, its not fixed and recipes are constantly tweaked, very few survive the test of time.
Some make a song and dance about changes which often backfire, most just do it and having already sensory tested via panels etc, just wait to see if anyone actually notices.

I always used to be a heinz ketchup person, but a want to reduce sugar meant I switched to tesco version and it took me 3 months or so to get that taste profile embedded in my brain as how it should taste.
I now buy the polish hot chili version from Tesco, although its far from hot to my tastebuds.

The "same factory" stuff is derp, just like comparing a bottom of the range 720p tv to a 4k oled because they are made in the same factory.
Same factory different recipe = not the same.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
The other thing to consider is that its constantly evolving, its not fixed and recipes are constantly tweaked, very few survive the test of time.
Some make a song and dance about changes which often backfire, most just do it and having already sensory tested via panels etc, just wait to see if anyone actually notices.
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I'd be surprised if many people would even notice. Unless it's a product you eat every day / several times a day, I doubt many people will be able to compare one tin to a tin they ate the previous week.
 
abandonned (&returned) sainsburies fig rolls after recent reformulation , now Aldi acolyte
major brands just seem to rely on customer inertia, shelf position, to stick with same brand, as opposed to regularly survey/try-out the competitors, lifes too short,
well until the recession arrived,

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hmmh Interesting to see how much calories in cereals reduced ... even if obesity didn't, given availibility of NHS dentistry though
>now Kellogg's Coco Pops 720G Energy486kJ115kcal Sugars5.1g
> then 2000 http://www.foodcomm.org.uk/pdfs/fortification.PDF

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Product name Manufacturer Pack size (g or ml) Price (£) Serving size (g or ml) E Sugar Fat Na kCal g % E g % E g C
Cocoa Pops Kelloggs 600 2.29 30 380 39.0(11.7) 38 2.0 5 0.80
Common Sense Kelloggs 500 2.25 40 340 21.0 23 5.0 13 0.60
Corn Pops Kelloggs 450 1.9 30 380 35.0 35 2.0 5 0.60 Cornflakes Kelloggs 500 0.99 30 370 8.0 8 0.7 2 1.10

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ttaskmaster said:
As for taste, that's entirely subjective... unless you're talking about Richmond sausages, but not even my dog will go near those!!
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As far as I'm aware I've never actually tasted a Richmond sausage. I did look at a packet of "Richmond Thick Pork Sausages" when they were on offer, but was firmly put off by the ingredients with just 42% Pork!!!
 
mattyfez said:
The thing with sausages is you don't actually want too much pork in them.
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Unless it's actually supposed to have other ingredients in it for flavour (leek, onion or whatever) I would normally expect a pork sausage to be 85% to 90% pork. Anything below 80% pork is a hard pass from me.
 
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