Help Picking Fans / Paste

@tamzzy is it safe to clean the CPU heater with the same thing I clean the CPU with? Currently got ArtiClean (from OcUK).

Sorry for noob questions but we all start somewhere.... :o
 
is it safe to clean the CPU heater with the same thing I clean the CPU with? Currently got ArtiClean (from OcUK).
i normally just use tissue paper lol :D
(then an alcohol wipe, and then another tissue paper to dry the surface)

but to answer your question specifically, yes it should be okay

PS: by heater i assume you mean cooler :P
 
I give up :confused: I made sure to be more generous with the paste this time but temps haven't really budged. Some cores reporting a few degrees lower but I suppose it'll have to do for now until I can think of other solutions. Atleast it isn't hitting 100c anymore.

Could it be the air being fed through the system? As in the amount of air getting in to cool it down?

I think I've used up the Grizzly paste now but might redo it all tomorrow from scratch and use the paste provided with the cooler. See if it makes any changes. If not, I have zero idea what to do.
 
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Give the cooler a wiggle when applying to help spread the paste, just a little one. Kryonaut is known for being quite thick and viscous. You could also give it a mild wiggle once it's thoroughly warmed up.
 
i highly doubt it, but post a pic of the interior of the case with everything mounted as is please?
at least we can have a look to exclude it

Sure, http://imgur.com/a/iZ22iVK collection of photos due to location but you should get the general idea. Front two fans bringing air in, fan on back pushing air out.

ETA: Fans are spinning at around 820 (I think might be front two fans) and 970 (back fan?). CPU fan running at 1040 which I believe is the max.
 
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collection of photos due to location but you should get the general idea
that looks absolutely fine to me. you can try increasing the rpm of the front fans to see if it'll help with better airflow?

i highly doubt that spending more on extra case fans would help with the temps.
 
that looks absolutely fine to me. you can try increasing the rpm of the front fans to see if it'll help with better airflow?

i highly doubt that spending more on extra case fans would help with the temps.

Set them to run at full speed and pretty much zero difference. Both spinning at 1150 RPM. If the CPU cooler IS making contact with the CPU as shown previously, what does that leave? Trying different thermal pastes?
 
Set them to run at full speed and pretty much zero difference. Both spinning at 1150 RPM
if it makes no difference, then definitely the above advise stands. don't bother with new/extra fans

If the CPU cooler IS making contact with the CPU as shown previously, what does that leave?
it leaves the cpu requiring a delid lol. (either a hot chip by default, or the internal thermal paste has dried up)
 
TBF the top of your IHS looks quite scratched and I'm not sure the chip or the heatsink were particularly clean from those photos. You're aiming for spotless, no previous paste, no finger grease, nothing at all on there.

But I doubt it would make more than a few degrees' difference really :confused:
 
TBF the top of your IHS looks quite scratched and I'm not sure the chip or the heatsink were particularly clean from those photos. You're aiming for spotless, no previous paste, no finger grease, nothing at all on there.

But I doubt it would make more than a few degrees' difference really :confused:

Is this bad?
 
Is this bad?
Well you want a smooth flat surface on both for good thermal transfer. In an ideal world the IHS and heatsink are perfectly mated and there's lots of direct contact, metal to metal. The thermal paste is only there to fill small gaps. It's why some high end coolers have a polished bottom.

If you're really worried you could lightly sand the chip to remove surface imperfections but honestly, it's risky and hurts resale value. I think your temps are doing fine.
 
@LuckyBenski ah okay. Running Prime is the worst case scenario isn't it? As in my PC would / should never get to the point where its stressed under the same pressure?

I really don't think I'll try to delid just yet as I just couldn't afford to replace if anything went wrong. Will keep an eye on temps though and hope they don't shoot up to 90/100c anymore.

After more money comes my way, I may just look at upgrading the system.
 
I really don't think I'll try to delid just yet as I just couldn't afford to replace if anything went wrong. Will keep an eye on temps though and hope they don't shoot up to 90/100c anymore.
Yeah, if 80c is the best you can get, then leave it. It's nowhere near the thermal limit. :)
 
I give up :confused: I made sure to be more generous with the paste this time but temps haven't really budged. Some cores reporting a few degrees lower but I suppose it'll have to do for now until I can think of other solutions. Atleast it isn't hitting 100c anymore.
Unless doing it seriously wrong differences made by paste applications should be couple to max handfull of degrees.
And for that size cooler those temperatures are simply badly wrong.

Also unless you have to use water proof keyboard and mouse to prevent sweat from shorting them, neither can room temperature cause such readings.
Room temperature increase from winter simply has linear effect to tempertures.
And case itself should be getting hot/really warm to touch, if inadequate case airflow is culprit.
Same for heatsink if heat is getting properly conducted away from CPU.
If heatsink (especially heat pipes) is't very warm then there's problem in there.

BTW, what's the particular CPU?
Apparently Intel put some chewed up bubblegums of Krzanich at least under heatspreader of 4790K:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31964604


Kryonaut is known for being quite thick and viscous.
Curious, most reviews don't mention anything on it being especially hard to apply.
And 85 paste comparison of Tom'shardware puts it to lower viscosity end.
While mentioning Kingpin KPx to almost need hammer to tenderize it...
 
BTW, what's the particular CPU?
Apparently Intel put some chewed up bubblegums of Krzanich at least under heatspreader of 4790K:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31964604

So this is the CPU I received. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1150-processor-retail-cp-539-in.html.

So I woke up today and ran another test, PRIME generally stuck around 73-75c, however one core did peak at 78c at one point. This was ran for about 1 hour 15 mins. I'm also seeing what results it gives when using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, after a quick 5 minutes it averaged around 65c and peaked at 69c. Going to do a final test of an hour and see if it reaches PRIME level.

It is much cooler today than it was yesterday in the room.

What is the different between the two programs to cause different results?
 
So this is the CPU I received. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1150-processor-retail-cp-539-in.html.

So I woke up today and ran another test, PRIME generally stuck around 73-75c, however one core did peak at 78c at one point. This was ran for about 1 hour 15 mins. I'm also seeing what results it gives when using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, after a quick 5 minutes it averaged around 65c and peaked at 69c. Going to do a final test of an hour and see if it reaches PRIME level.

It is much cooler today than it was yesterday in the room.

What is the different between the two programs to cause different results?
Guess we now know why it's named that way: Runs hot as hell.
Those temperatures are what would be "normal" hot running.
That one core peaking was likely some kind boost clock spike.

Intel's utilility clearly causes lower load than Prime.
Linpack is another good one for hammering CPU.
https://intelburntest.en.lo4d.com/
https://linx.en.lo4d.com/
 
What is the different between the two programs to cause different results?

Amount of processes CPU performs. Prime 95 is software used to discover a prime numbers with at least 100,000,000 decimal digits. In simple language it's an extreme number cruncher using 100% load on all ores/threads. I use/used Handbrake running 2 applications at same time because it is encoding software that is commonly used by peeps to encode videos for use on phone, notebooks, etc. If priority level is set to high it will use all CPU .. so much CPU load it can cause freezing when trying to stop it. Can't brows or do anything else.
 
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