Help with absenteism

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Right, I may be waaay off base here, but as we are exploring other 'avenues' here, perhaps she isn't being bullied, not at school anyway. Perhaps it's simply a case of unrequited love?

Okay, I know she is 12...er 13, 12/13 but kids grow up pretty quick these days and this type of thing still messes up adults right?

Just a thought.

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Some of you guys are being a bit harsh, he and his wife are obviously at their wits end dealing with this. I certainly wouldn't like to go through this.
 
Somethings either stopping her going, bullying, abuse, whatever. Or she's being a lazy so and so.
Talk to her, ask her "are you being bullied?" "is the janitor molesting you?" you know all that malarky.

You need to extract it from her through whatever means neccesary, if she won't tell you anyway say you're going to drag her into the school and sit next to her in the classes unless she starts going of her own accord.
 
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We have had enough.

For the last month our 12 year old daughter has refused to go to school.
We have taken her to the school gate, she has run off, or just point blank refused to go in.

Today when she refused to get out of bed, i dragged her out onto the floor.
She just lay there and refused to move.(it took all of my strength not to hit her, and i wanted to).

You're a bad parent, basically, you wanted to hit your child because she doesn't want to go to school? The question is and its really very simple, is she avoiding school to hang out with friends, smoke weed, drink, cause trouble, because thats one side of it, or is she avoiding school and staying at home, doing nothing, simply not wanting to be there, because thats a completely different side to it.

The fact you didn't state one or the other, actually makes me lean towards the later, but also that you haven't asked her. IF its the later, there can be many reasons, but she's not causing trouble, and she's not doing badly in school, thats a BAD sign whichever way you look at it. Anything from a teacher molesting her, to severe depression.

Me personally, I got severely depressed at school and no one gave a crap, parents, school. I ended up causing myself to be sick, not on purpose, but when you're severely depressed you end up ill a lot. I just didn't want to be there, I was bored to tears, ahead in almost every subject, I'd been in accelerated classes at middle school which led to me being basically a year or two ahead in almost everything, at a school that when they gave me extra work, was just crap from next week which I'd done. I was sitting around doing nothing for months on end, getting irritated, bored, depressed.

One teacher actually helped and put me into a fast track GSCE maths class, which was basically me and one other guy in an office working on our own, which did more harm than good. Doing well in school is not a sign theres no trouble at school, likewise not wanting to go is not necessarily your kid being "bad" or just being lazy. I hated being there to the point I was severely depressed which made me uncomftable being there, even though I had plenty of friends and never had any real issues except the few teachers who treated me like crap because they thought I was just out bunking off causing trouble.


So the response to your post is, TALK TO YOUR DAMN KID. She could be in all kinds of trouble, treating her like she's bad, in trouble and getting angry at her for something that could be completely out of her hands is simply going to make her feel worse. if it is depression, or something worse like a teacher hurting her, how would you feel if people got angry at you over it.

Reading further only enforces my view, she isn't out, she's locking herself away, she's almost certainly depressed, which could be for a variety of reasons, body issues, getting boobs and being bullied, not having boobs and getting bullied. It could be anything, and this is the key thing, SHE'S NOT getting in trouble, theres something clearly wrong and you're punishing her and getting angry at her.

This is the classic thing, if she's depressed or being molested, it will be a hard thing to admit, she might not know she's depressed, she might just feel not normal making her feel even worse, rather than you guys being supportive, you seem angry at her, she'll know that, thats not the key to getting her to open up.


The very first thing to do is go up to her right now and say sorry. Thats a start, tell her you simply don't know what you're doing, kids appreciate the truth, tell her they don't know whats wrong, convince her that you won't be angry, but you need to know whats wrong. Tell her if someone hurt her, its not her fault and you WON'T BE ANGRY at her for something other people are doing. Tell her if she feels uncomftable about something she can tell you and you can help her. Ask her if theres anyone she trusts she can talk to and get help from without making her feel guilty for choosing someone other than you.

Ask a doctor to see her about possible depression, ask if she wants to talk to a therapist and explain who they are, what they do and that anything you say to them is in confidence, you have no right to know what she says to the therapist and they might be able to help.


Everything about her behaviour screams she has a problem and you're angry at her which is simply not the way to go about it.

If she was out, causing trouble, mugging people having fun with friends thats one thing, you can clearly see she's not doing this.

I'm still depressed because my parents never once put two and two together, never got me any help, never assumed something might be wrong and were constantly angry at me. Also they were mildly threatened about fines by the council.

Thats largely because the school will ASSUME she's just off causing trouble, talk to them, if she is depressed, well, people are good at hiding it. No one at school knew I was depressed, I hid it, acted normal which made me feel worse. Teachers don't want to take your kid away because she's depressed, neither will care workers, but they'll automatically assume she's a trouble maker rather than a depressed kid in need of help.
 
As I said, if im wrong, I do apologise.

However, posts like this dont shine you in a good light - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15220088&postcount=28

Also, as I said above, the way some of your replies are worded dont quite sit right, however that does not make you a liar.

It just looks a bit strange.

I'm sorry i don't see the relevance.

I am not looking for shinning lights i was just asking for guidence.
If you ain't happy don't post here again.
 
Go and tell he she's not going to school tomorrow but to be up and dressed ready to go out at the same time as normal, mention nothing about where or what your doing. Take he out somewhere, spend some quality time with her away from home, school and normal life and treat her nicely, spoil her a bit. Then try an approach the subject. Just show her you love her and maybe she'll open up rather than after screaming and shouting and trying to drag her to school when your all wound up.

I suspect there's a bully involved or a group of kids picking on her.
 
Anxiety problems like social anxiety disorder and agoraphobia can cause this.

This is why I asked about confidence levels. OP Totally ignored me though.

I missed the last year of school because I had bad anxiety/social anxiety. I couldn't bare to be at school around other people. It's a long story.
 
Thanks, but maybe i shouldn't of started this thread, it just makes me realise that we are getting nowhere, we have tried it all and are banging our heads against a brick wall.

What nonsense, you haven't tried anything except punishment, threats and bullying, all when she might be being abused. You could try the other path you know, helping her, being trustworthy, sympathetic and getting her help. Sounds like you instantly started punishing her and haven't done a single thing to try and help.

IF you're not trolling, well, honestly, thats just flat out bad parenting, it really is.

She's a kid, she needs help, not threats.
 
Well he could be looking to spark reactions out of people, some kind of strange trolling :(

take a look at his last few threads (or any of them).

He seems like dvdbunny on a mixture of acid and steroids.

Although his theory is we all see his forum name get jealous and attack him for it...
 
I can speak from personal experience because I too from around the age of 14 stopped attending high school, turned out to be the best thing I've ever done :)

Eventually we will be fined and/or she COULD be taken into care.

There's some added stress, stop believing this.

Funny,,,, they will not physically help to get her into school, but they will physically get her into care.

No, no she wont :/ where do you get these ideas from?

We WILL be fined if she does not go, but if we get her into school it then becomes their responsibility.

no again

We don't live to far from the school, so i was thinking that me and the wife could take one arm each, and carry/drag her to school.

Yeah, a good showing up in front of either friends or bullies, that'll make her want to go for the next 3/4 years.

:/

(no... not a good idea)


OH NO god forbid that happens to my angel.

it's not lack of high school doesn't make you end up like that, trust...



first off CHILL OUT, realise it's not the end of the world... god knows why people work themselves up so much :p evil men wont fine you and take her away nor will she be confined to a council house for the rest of her life!

Sit down with her, maybe better with just one of you... ask her questions, lots of questions... I know I needed about 20 chances to give anything away

if that doesn't work just try and spend time with her, sit up in her room, downstairs watch a movie or something, it's sometimes easier to talk when it's not confined to a 1 to 1 chat.



troll or not... good subject - he wont be the only one in this situation
 
NO, it makes me a GOOD parent.

I wanted to hit her but didn't.

If you were a parent you would know how your children can make you feel, good an bad.

No it doesn't, because she didn't want to be somewhere, where its clear to EVERYONE in this thread to you she's uncomftable, depressed and possibly even being hurt. Your first thought is to force her, punish her and then get angry when she still doesn't want to go.

A good parent would be trying to get her help, understand her and talk to her, if you were doing so she wouldn't be responding badly to being punished and you wouldn't be getting angry in the first place.

You're only getting angry because of the course of action you've taken, which is COMPLETELY WRONG. You're getting angry at your kid, for being depressed, or maybe being molested, maybe something less bad. Until you KNOW for SURE its nothing that bad and she's just bunking acting angry, with threats and punishment is frankly, abysmal parenting.

Can you not see if you were helping and understanding, you'd know what was wrong by now, or be well on the way to getting her help and you wouldn't have been angry enough to hit her in the first place?

Oh, and assuming she is depressed or being hurt, the guilt of the stress you are supposedly under from the possibility of financial fines, and the possibility of her being taken away will only make it worse.

This is aside from the fact you WILL NOT BE FINED AND WILL NOT LOSE HER TO CARE, for her not going to school for a month. Frankly, without knowing whats wrong and without really trying to find out, adding to the pressure on her with that guilt is again, just not the thing to do.


Parents who punish first, threaten second, guilt third and then go on a forum to be given the idea to help her, aren't doing well.
 
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