Here we go again!! Another knife attack.

Malevolence said:
Mostafa Kamel, isn't that a punchline to a joke? Although I reckon it's safe to say that he's going to be very popular in prison.

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Note, he isn't the guy arrested for murder, he was arrested at the same event for firearms charges.
 
Murphy said:
I'm curious what's the definition of 'front-line' police officers, maybe some less important/relevant 'front-line' police officer positions got cut first and then they started cutting actual bobbies on the beat.
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Appendix 2 of the source document here:
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN00634/SN00634.pdf

"Operational front line functions include things like patrolling neighbourhoods, responding to 999 calls, roads policing and protecting vulnerable people."
 
A recent conversation in my infamous pub has led me to challenge my horror at the amount of drug related knife crimes, especially in our capital. A fellow boozer asked "Why, if you do not relish black drug dealers and mules gaining a foothold in our counties are you so worried when they knife or shoot each other, often fatally? And you also espouse the opinion that the authorities are so hamstrung by political correctness they are impotent to effectively stop and search and later charge these people? Euthanasia by their peers is surely an idyllic and cost effective situation?"

I found it hard to argue with that somewhat different perspective ;)
 
Chris Wilson said:
A recent conversation in my infamous pub has led me to challenge my horror at the amount of drug related knife crimes, especially in our capital. A fellow boozer asked "Why, if you do not relish black drug dealers and mules gaining a foothold in our counties are you so worried when they knife or shoot each other, often fatally? And you also espouse the opinion that the authorities are so hamstrung by political correctness they are impotent to effectively stop and search and later charge these people? Euthanasia by their peers is surely an idyllic and cost effective situation?"

I found it hard to argue with that somewhat different perspective ;)
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I suspect the actual comment may have lacked that level of eloquence. I could be wrong. I mean I'm not, but I could be.
 
You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment ;) But it is a quite "select" Shropshire market town pub, not some inner city speak easy, so people tend to be fairly refined, most of the time, but occasionally someone will go all Alf Garnett ;)
 
Chris Wilson said:
A recent conversation in my infamous pub has led me to challenge my horror at the amount of drug related knife crimes, especially in our capital. A fellow boozer asked "Why, if you do not relish black drug dealers and mules gaining a foothold in our counties are you so worried when they knife or shoot each other, often fatally? And you also espouse the opinion that the authorities are so hamstrung by political correctness they are impotent to effectively stop and search and later charge these people? Euthanasia by their peers is surely an idyllic and cost effective situation?"

I found it hard to argue with that somewhat different perspective ;)
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This is why nothing is done about it.
 
Chris Wilson said:
A recent conversation in my infamous pub has led me to challenge my horror at the amount of drug related knife crimes, especially in our capital. A fellow boozer asked "Why, if you do not relish black drug dealers and mules gaining a foothold in our counties are you so worried when they knife or shoot each other, often fatally? And you also espouse the opinion that the authorities are so hamstrung by political correctness they are impotent to effectively stop and search and later charge these people? Euthanasia by their peers is surely an idyllic and cost effective situation?"

I found it hard to argue with that somewhat different perspective ;)
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I’ve always enjoyed the old NYPD label for scumbags wiping each other out : NHI - No Humans Involved.

Other favourites are DRT - Dead Right There and ART - Assuming Room Temperature.
 
Kermit said:
Not the downfall but certainly the attitude of youth.

Elvis's gyrations I'd say likley inspired closer/sexier dancing which no doubt helped many couples getting to know each other better than would have been true in the 1940/1950's
1960's music with inspired much sexual freedom and anti-war sentiment which you can't say didn't influence many younger peoples culture in the 1960's and into the
1970's......
1980 * 1990's.....my generation
2000+ Rap/Garage/Grime/Drill have become a very big part of the youth culture these days and there is correlation between the way youths act, dress, their aspirations and the music they are into. The difference is a lot of what went before (Beatles, Elvis, 1980s) was primarily love, sex, freedom and while older generation mostly didn't like the music, the culture it bred in the main didn't do others any harm while some of todays drill/rap/grime appear to convey the attitude that you better get rich or die trying, flash your wealth, how to treat your "bitches" etc

So to suggest theres no correlation between stabbings, drug dealing, muggings/theft and generally only thinking of yourself and **** others attitude many of the inner cities are suiffering from is to deny that music is part of culture, has influenced in the past. particullarly influences the younger generations, continues to influence it today and will continue in to the future.
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See also how life is depicted in the media generally.

There are plenty of academics who will claim vigorously that what people see and experience in the media does not affect wider behaviour.

However, Logically, when you consider that one of the worlds biggest and most profitable business is based ENTIRELY on the premise that peoples behaviour is affected by what they experience in the media. (See also, Political Propaganda)

This "Official" position has to be wrong. and that the Mary Whitehouses of this world are actually rather more likely to be right on the money!
 
Chris Wilson said:
A recent conversation in my infamous pub has led me to challenge my horror at the amount of drug related knife crimes, especially in our capital. A fellow boozer asked "Why, if you do not relish black drug dealers and mules gaining a foothold in our counties are you so worried when they knife or shoot each other, often fatally? And you also espouse the opinion that the authorities are so hamstrung by political correctness they are impotent to effectively stop and search and later charge these people? Euthanasia by their peers is surely an idyllic and cost effective situation?"

I found it hard to argue with that somewhat different perspective ;)
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Why do you think a lot of inner cities in the US have become so crime ridden, white flight, businesses leave, crime settles in, what's happening now is almost the exact same thing as US cities 40 odd years ago.

Police and politicians are too afraid of labels and words over ensuring criminals don't get a foothold and areas are lost forever to gangs.
 
robfosters said:
Edited my post. Some idiot on twitter reporting it quite convincingly. Strange one this. Got on at same station, that’s it. Train full of passengers too. Must have been horrific to witness.
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Indeed, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I expect most outlets are reluctant to jump the gun too. As always time will tell.
 
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