Here we go again - Clattenburg accused of racism

Tummy · 13 Nov 2012 at 18:57

pingwing · 13 Nov 2012 at 19:03

Tummy said:
BBC Link.

Thought that was the general expectation of what was going to happen so far.

Azza · 13 Nov 2012 at 23:42

Richard Conway BBC ‏@richard_conway

Peter Herbert, chair of Society of Black Lawyers, says police decision to drop Clattenburg investigation "sounds..like a football cover-up."

Peter Herbert: "We would have expected FA to refer this matter to the Met police. FA do not have the tools to investigate race-hate crime”

Peter Herbert tells BBC "If no co-operation was given by the FA or Chelsea [to Met] we will want to raise issue with the Minister of Sport.”

This guy is a ledge!

Pigeon_Killer · 13 Nov 2012 at 23:49

I assume his African name is Toju Okorodudu? Portrayed my favourite character in Balls of Steel.

maun · 14 Nov 2012 at 08:33

That Peter Herbert is just an attention seeker. Surely it's not a cover up if there wasn't any evidence to prove any racist remarks to being with

Still annoys me that he's allowed to play a racist card when he chairs a black only society.

grimm · 14 Nov 2012 at 12:39

Most of us knew that it would turn out to be a load of rubbish anyway. The society of black lawyers are an absolute joke as well.

JohnnyG · 14 Nov 2012 at 12:47

Clarke Carlisle was just on SSN saying that Herbert admits that he made his complaint to the police based on 'evidence' he got from the Daily Mail, incredible

He should post here

grimm said:
Most of us knew that it would turn out to be a load of rubbish anyway.

It hasn't finished yet :confused:

grimm · 14 Nov 2012 at 12:57

JohnnyG said:
Clarke Carlisle was just on SSN saying that Herbert admits that he made his complaint to the police based on 'evidence' he got from the Daily Mail, incredible
He should post here

It hasn't finished yet

Ah right, I'm confused then. The society of black lawyers guy is saying that it wasn't reported to the police, yet the police have dropped their investigation. Did the police begin investigating off their own back then even though no complaint was made to them?

So we're still waiting for the FA to give Clattenburg a 4 or 8 game ban then?

It's comical whichever way you look at it though. Were they scared to go to the police because they'd end up being done for wasting police time?

JohnnyG · 14 Nov 2012 at 13:05

No.
The SBL made a complaint to the police based on what they (Peter Herbert) read in the Daily Mail, that's according to Clarke Carlisle so it's probably gospel.
The police have said that they cannot continue the investigation and announced this as their reasons -

Police said in a statement on Tuesday: "Inquiries were made and no victims have come forward. The matter will remain as a recorded incident.
"Without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated.
"If the situation changes and a victim and/or evidence to support an allegation of a crime comes to police attention, then further inquiries will, if appropriate, be made."

Now Herbert is claiming an 'FA/Chelsea cover up'.

It would be comical if they went to the police without hard evidence, it's just one word against another.
But, as was proved in the Terry case, the FA don't need the same level of proof and as already mentioned in here Chelsea had no choice but to report the incident appropriately.

Jono8 · 14 Nov 2012 at 13:54

I still cannot see Clattenburg calling someone a Monkey. As Sir Alex said, it is unthinkable.

doodah · 14 Nov 2012 at 15:03

Aren't one of the rumours he may have said "cheeky little monkey"?

dmcg · 14 Nov 2012 at 16:46

Chelsea should be heavily punished if this does turn out to be false which it is anyway

JohnnyG · 14 Nov 2012 at 17:27

dmcg said:
Chelsea should be heavily punished if this does turn out to be false which it is anyway

Punished by who?
You can't mean the FA as they've done exactly what they're obliged to in these circumstances.
You can't mean the police as they are under no obligation to them to report anything and haven't wasted their time.
You can't mean under the Equality Act as they've adhered to the actions that demands.
Ramires (if it was him) could be punished I suppose if it's proven that he made it up but there can't be any proof if it's just one man's word against another which is why Clattenburg won't be punished either.
Having said all that the FA are a law unto themselves so will probably come up with something

fez · 14 Nov 2012 at 17:33

There is such a thing as a mistake. If football is trying to eliminate racism then any claim should be investigated. If it turns out the accusation was a mistake then just say as much and move on.

No premier league team would be stupid enough to make up a false accusation of racism. As mentioned, if it was something that was taken out of context, explain that and drop it.

I can't see how Clattenberg or Chelsea are at fault here.

Purdy · 14 Nov 2012 at 17:56

I dunno, I think Liverpool would be dumb enough

doodah · 14 Nov 2012 at 18:49

Does he love his own voice or is he trying to deflect attention from the discovery of his complaint to the police been based on a DM article?

The Football Association has been accused of "institutional racism" for not referring alleged comments by referee Mark Clattenburg to the police. Peter Herbert, chairman of the Society of Black Lawyers, believes the FA has not done enough to investigate a complaint against Clattenburg. "We think the FA is institutionally racist," Herbert told BBC Radio 5 live.

Loki · 14 Nov 2012 at 19:32

JohnnyG said:
Clarke Carlisle was just on SSN saying that Herbert admits that he made his complaint to the police based on 'evidence' he got from the Daily Mail, incredible
He should post here

So hang on is this right. The SBL raised their own complaint even though they were not directly involved in the incident. Their complaint to the police was from Evidence From The Daily Mail that had one maybe two reporters in the press box compared to The FA who had Ref with a wired up mic and camera's and mic's all over the ground yet didn't pick anything up.

You really couldn't write it

Gackt · 14 Nov 2012 at 19:40

Where's the Society of White Lawyers?

Or would that be racist? It just sounds like an opportunity for a nobody from a nobody organisation to get some attention. Pathetic.

doodah · 14 Nov 2012 at 19:45

What about the Society of Mixed-Race* Lawyers? Don't we deserve representation too

*Is that still the correct term or have they added several more words to the description?

Purdy · 14 Nov 2012 at 19:48

Amazing how the society of black lawyers doesn't see how they are being racist by segregating black people so much, thought the whole point was everyone is equal.