Here we go again - Clattenburg accused of racism
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As I said, Chelsea have a history of this and given the Matta complaint too, it just sounded like sour grapes to me personally. Pleased Clattenburg is cleared, so to speak. Hope he gets compensation from Chelsea over this.
They should have kept it in house and not let it out to the public straight away. Although, provided a nice distraction?
Anyway, FA thing is over, s'all done and dusted really.
Looking forward to the public apology from society of black lawyers bloke
TBH, it's those sort of groups that give other groups working for equality a bad reputation. He's an idiot and I'm pretty sure his ego and or stupid warped view on the world will not allow him to admit he was wrong and apologise.
Yes, there is no way he will apologise, his opinions help absolutely no one
Good grief, are you really still struggling to understand what happened?
Chelsea didn't make any false allegations in this case and they haven't done in the past (that was pointed out to you earlier in the thread) it was an employee and they were duty bound to follow it up.
And, considering that Chelsea did exactly what they were required to under employment law & the FA's own laws which book do you suggest is thrown at them & by whom?
Clattenburg might want bring a civil case against Ramires and or Mikel but as the FA have said they believe the claim was made in good faith even that's going to be difficult.
It's utterly irrelevant if you don't believe the good faith part.
More or less wrong than the FA choosing refs Taggart has disapproved of?
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I think common sense has prevailed. Clattenburg should be compensated for loss of earnings but it's not right to punish Chelsea or sue Ramires because people should not be afraid to come forward with these allegations.
That said, Chelsea were wholly inappropriate in making this public as they did, and while they argue that they are duty bound to make these accusations, a degree of professional judgement is required before doing so. Given that Suarez and Terry were found guilty on a relatively small amount of evidence, it speaks for itself how little base there was to Ramires' claims if this is claim is not even being heard by the FA. Undoubtedly the next time Chelsea are involved in disciplinary action this incident will not reflect favourably on the reliability of their testimony (again).
That said, Chelsea were wholly inappropriate in making this public as they did, and while they argue that they are duty bound to make these accusations, a degree of professional judgement is required before doing so. Given that Suarez and Terry were found guilty on a relatively small amount of evidence, it speaks for itself how little base there was to Ramires' claims if this is claim is not even being heard by the FA. Undoubtedly the next time Chelsea are involved in disciplinary action this incident will not reflect favourably on the reliability of their testimony (again).
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As for the not making up any false allegations, what about when Frisk was accused of colluding with Barcelona manager Frank Rijkaard in 2005. The claim from Cole and Terry in 2007 about Poll “wanted to teach Chelsea a lesson”. Then what about the case in 2009 when Chelsea led another character assassination on Ovrebo after he didn't award Chelsea a penalty.
Chelsea should have carried out a better investigation behind closed doors before going public and then to the FA about this.
Clattenburg stands accused of using racist language in a match that was broadcast the world over, with 40'000 people in the crowd and 22 players on the pitch. No evidence other then one player who barely speaks English. The player whom this was said to didn't hear this.
Don't get me wrong, it puts them (Chelsea) in a difficult position. A rock and a hard place.
So, I've got to get my head round this, a weak allergation with no credible evidence, informing the press before the FA.
Where is the Chelsea apology to Clattenburg? I hope Clattenburg takes a case against them, or rather the players who accused him of this.
I maintain that had Chelsea won that game, these claims wouldn't have been made. I just think it's really low from a football club, really low. Chelsea will face no action over a claim that was unfounded and could have ruined a referee's career, not even an apology.
You are again confusing players and managers with the Club, Chelsea never had any part in any of those instances, can you not see the difference?
If you really need someone to blame, blame Ramires, don't tell the FA though.
Chelsea didn't inform the press before the FA, the press broke the news before Chelsea published their official statement, the FA were made aware before that.
Again, which book should be thrown at them & by whom?
False allegations are false allergations, those players and managers represent Chelsea.
Explain to me why a claim with no creidible evidence was taken to the press before the FA?
I do blame Ramires, but also Chelsea for not conducting a better investigation in to a very serious claim that could have ruined a referee's career, all because they lost a football match in less than pleasant circumstances.
It's a pointless debate with you though, as you're not going to allow a bad word said against Chelsea.
That's just rubbish.
It wasn't taken to the press before the FA, where the hell do you get your nonsense from, the press heard about it and gobbed off. I think it was Twitter journos.
I have no problem with bad words about Chelsea if they're based on fachts, most of what you come out with is fabricated and I can only think that you don't really want to look at things rationally as you can't fap to it.
Which book should be thrown at them & by whom?
You can't answer that can you, you just want them to be told off for being nawty.
It wasn't taken to the press before the FA, where the hell do you get your nonsense from, the press heard about it and gobbed off. I think it was Twitter journos.
I have no problem with bad words about Chelsea if they're based on fachts, most of what you come out with is fabricated and I can only think that you don't really want to look at things rationally as you can't fap to it.
Which book should be thrown at them & by whom?
You can't answer that can you, you just want them to be told off for being nawty.
I would be pushing for bringing the game in to disrepute
and would be looking at a similar charge against Ramires.No, I've presented to you three other previous cases were Chelsea have made false allergations in similar circumstances for you to use to excuse that.
Chelsea have not just a duty to their players, but also a duty to properly investigate such a damaging claim against someone who's career they could have ruined too, they failed to do this. A claim with basically no evidence was bought against someone.
Where is the Chelsea apology?
So you want the FA to charge Chelsea for complying with their directions, genius.
Chelsea didn't make those allegations, no matter how many times you say they did, Liverpool aren't racist just because Suarez abused Evra.
Chelsea sought independent legal advice before proceeding with the claims to make sure there was basis for a case, throw the book at the legal bods who advised them then yeah?
Chelsea didn't make those allegations, no matter how many times you say they did, Liverpool aren't racist just because Suarez abused Evra.
Chelsea sought independent legal advice before proceeding with the claims to make sure there was basis for a case, throw the book at the legal bods who advised them then yeah?
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No, I want the FA to charge Chelsea for bringing a very serious and career ending charge against someone with no evidence.
Ramires made this claim, Terry made a previous claim, Moureen made a claim.
Chelsea should take action against them, I fail to believe that's all that happened, Chelsea should have looked in to this themselves and could then have spotted that one player, with very poor command of the English language heard something that nobody else did, and it must be true.
We are going round in circles. You're not going to allow criticism of Chelsea.
Feel free to disagree.
That's not going to happen, unlucky, they did what the FA advised them too.
Ramires, Terry, JM, Bosingwa have all said things but they're not Chelsea. Liverpool aren't racist just because Suarez abused Evra, you probably think they are though.
You fail to believe it because you don't want to.
Criticise all you want but at least be rational and factual about it.
Ramires, Terry, JM, Bosingwa have all said things but they're not Chelsea. Liverpool aren't racist just because Suarez abused Evra, you probably think they are though.
You fail to believe it because you don't want to.
Criticise all you want but at least be rational and factual about it.
Haha.
What have Liverpool got to do with this? I think you should stick to the day job too as your mind reading abilities are terrible
Haha.
What have Liverpool got to do with this? I think you should stick to the day job too as your mind reading abilities are terrible
It's called an anal ogy.