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Hi all, visiting from a different forum to try and find some answers about AMD's pricing on Vega

Scougar said:
Not at all. I think you are reading what I wrote wrong, or maybe I just worded it badly? I am saying the retailer pays LESS than RRP. The manufacturer is not going to suggest a price to sell at and have the retailer pay more than the price they suggest.

With what I originally said, I was trying to clear up the part where people seemed to be getting confused with RRP. A retailer pays less, and sells for profit. Dependent on the type of product they make a good profit based just on the RRP itself, so when it gets more than that, they are really making some good money. no one should be thinking that the retailer is 'having' to sell at more than rrp.
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Thats the problem, AMD said the rrp was $499/£450, but gibbo confirmed ocuk are paying more than that except for a handful of cards they had on launch day - the same model of card is now priced higher from the manufacturer because AMD are no longer supporting the $499 price.
 
DONOHUE07 said:
Is the Vega 54 expected to shoot up in price too?

Not having a dig here Jibbo, I'm genuinely curious as I fancy one, but won't be able to get one For a couple of months
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Its a vega 56* and if it does go up in price i aint buying one, i sold my 390 a month ago in preparation... If the industry wants to up the prices for gpus they can have fun because i'll just buy second hand from now on. I really want a 56 but might have to buy a second hand 1070 or fury now...
 
I cannot imagine for one minute amd or Nvidia care who buys their cards all this bundle madness and price messing is down to limited supply or higher than expected manafacturing costs (probably both)..
 
Padraig said:
Its a vega 56* and if it does go up in price i aint buying one, i sold my 390 a month ago in preparation... If the industry wants to up the prices for gpus they can have fun because i'll just buy second hand from now on. I really want a 56 but might have to buy a second hand 1070 or fury now...
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Yeah I have a 290 and eyeing up a used FuryX
 
Hey, hi, hello, and howdy. Sorry for not getting back sooner, but if I haven't mentioned I'm a stay at home dad and my life just isn't my own at times and I have almost no control over it. Sorry, just a "family is more important than anything" priority I made early on in case I ever got confused. It's worked for 22 years so I think I'll stick with it. I also never game online, if you're on Steam and see "digitalwanderer" I would recommend you be ready for a bit of an encounter. My son took over my Steam account when he was like 4-5 and never looked back. (I taught him how to use a mouse and keyboard to move when he was about 18 months old, he's gotten pretty good...)

I did do a lot of asking around and then a lot of research and then I also was forced to do some serious fu...some soul searching. Actually that didn't take long at all, it just comes down to do I want to be a fanboy and try and sell this or am I gonna be me and just say what I feel?

It didn't take long, like I said. If you ain't honest on the boards you'll never last on the boards, I learned that early on and I hate trying to sugar coat or sell something I don't believe in. Plus I quit lying unless necessary a long time a go, makes life SO much easier and more pleasant. You don't have to keep your stories straight, you can just freewheel and not worry.

Okay. I know I started this and I got gotta answer up to it too. People keep asking me to ask everyone I know about it and I have been and I've been getting a lot of answers and some are right some are wrong some are good and some are bad, but after analyzing it all and a lot of soul searching I think I can say and answer with heartfelt conviction;

a very bad four letter f-word. :(

NOTES: Sorry for the around the word filter thing at the end, but that's the only way I can honestly answer the question. I do not mean to offend, and I apologize if I have done so and please to edit/delete/ban me at your discretion. Also I lifted the last two lines in a post I just made over at Beyond3D about this same subject that got it's own thread broken from their general Vega thread. I only link the thread because I got a lot of information from there and felt it worth mentioning that I was lazy and did a copy/pasta/ninja edit because, but also because I really feel like it sums up my feelings.

I don't like this, it doesn't seem right somehow. I can't say I fully understand it since personal stuff had got my thinker unit a bit jammed, but every ounce of my instincts is telling me there is just a lot of what they are saying that doesn't seem to pass the sniff test. That honestly makes me feel sad/bad because I do genuinely love AMD a bit since I know so many good people there who are friends and I know to be decent and righteous, but something is off and I don't like it.

Again, sorry for just jumping in and saying that but I didn't want you to think I'd forgotten or wasn't following. I think I can get a bit more to tell, but I'm honestly so bummed just reading what everyone else has already discovered that I just want to not think about it for a while. :(

Thank you all again for your input, I do believe y'all are on to something.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Old news, AMD have already clarified the situation on price and said RX Vega will stay at the same price.
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Fourever? With nou price increase ever?

Nout a hint, just woundered if their statement had any qualifiers or wiggle rououm.

NOTES: Sourry, thought the extry "u"s would add a bit ouf light heartedness tou a very dark moument four me. I really always have labelled myself as "Colour Commentator" though, we were an international site and I felt it better reflected it. :)
 
I think it's fairly obvious what has happened now, AMD advertised an unrealistically low price (ie. the best card under $499 slide doing the rounds) and took a loss on a few cards during launch day so that they could actually meet it and wouldn't get savaged about their 'real' pricing during the critical review stage. The RRP (recommended retail price) might well still be $499 but if it's costing retailers $549 per unit to buy them from AMD now that the rebate has been pulled from under them they're hardly likely to meet it are they?

It's basically a marketing trick as far as I'm concerned. I'd be more interested to know if they've broken advertising standards rules in the way they've manipulated reviews by giving a false price. I'd guess that because they did sell some cards for that price it's probably legal but it's still a grey area for me in the way they've deceived reviewers.
 
So disappointed with Amd and the Vega launch. They had previously forced me to return to Nvidia because of their inferior cards and it turns out that Vega is more expensive than my 980Ti from a couple of years ago and barely better, if any. At least the 980Ti was a premium product and performed as such, the vega appears mid range at best. :(
 
If it's any consolation, I think the true reason that there hasn't been any straight answers from AMD yet is that they're trying to figure out how to handle the situation and there are some debates going on internally. I don't think they know yet what the answer is going to be going forward, I do know there are people working damned hard to make sure the original prices stick though.

So I wait, and I don't think it's unrealistic to give them some time to figure it out...at least until the next shipment of cards are ready. It's all conjecture, but I still have some hope that AMD will do the right thing.

I know, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own and I don't really have anything to back up my opinion with other than my natural optimism and my faith in AMD from years of association.
 
Gibbo said:
Well said!

It was made 100% clear in the OP of the launch thread, hey guys, VEGA 64 is here and for a limited launch quantity you can grab one at £449 ($499) for the black standalone card with no games. When this is gone they shall be £549 upwards ($599) with games. £549 is the minimum SEP if we sell at this price we make nothing after CC/Paypal/Amazon checkout charges, this is why our price is now higher on the small volume of stock we have. When more stock lands the price will improve to under £600.

Maybe some people cannot read or simply like to troll. As previously stated I will push AMD hard to get the prices lower, but they hold the purse strings.
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Good grief its been perfectly clear from the outset that these were introductory prices and that means its likely to go up afterwards. Whats so hard to understand about that? People apparently have amnesia and are trying to paint it as deliberate deception. The information was right there from the start. Its obvious AMD were aiming to match the 1080 in performance and thats what they've achieved, albeit at the expense of pushing the chip hard hence the high temperatures. Also why do people think the 1080ti was released when it was, only a few months after the new XP when even the reviewers were grumbling about it? Nvidia obviously got wind of what AMD were up to and pushed out the ti to pull the rug from under AMD's feet the same as they did with the 980ti/Fury.

The amount of hysteria over this launch is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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