HID Conversion Kits

[TW]Fox · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:11

thepharcyde said:
My dads R34 & Bro in laws accord Type R had xenons fitted as standard @ the factory without projectors. Infact a lot of Jap cars do without projectors. Whats the difference here then?

I thought both Accord Type R and R34 with Xenons had projectors? Can't say I've seen that many R34's but Accords certainly have projectors - you dont get factory fit HID systems without projector lenses.

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:16

Maybe I am misunderstanding projectors then. Is this the projector both cars of which I mentioned do not have this.

[TW]Fox · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:18

Yes, thats a projector. But Psycrow owned an ATR with HID's and had projectors, and you can't sell cars in the UK with HID's which don't have projectors.

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:20

quick google images

[TW]Fox · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:20

Thats just a random R34, no idea whether it's HID fitted or not - they were not standard fit were they?

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:21

Accord.

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:23

[TW]Fox;11119521 said:
Thats just a random R34, no idea whether it's HID fitted or not - they were not standard fit were they?

I believe they were standard on the GTR model.

[TW]Fox · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:26

Not all Accord Type R's had HID's either just what do you expect to prove with random pictures of cars? I could show you a Focus ST with reflector lights even though you know very well the HID models had projectors.

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:29

[TW]Fox;11119556 said:
Not all Accord Type R's had HID's either just what do you expect to prove with random pictures of cars? I could show you a Focus ST with reflector lights even though you know very well the HID models had projectors.

I am telling you 100% that not all cars with xenons from the factory have projectors ....accept it

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:31

I was merely interested in how cars without projectors are aligned not to prove anyone wrong here

Third Opinion · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:36

HIDs look Chavvy on cars that are not suppose to use them.
The only exception is when they are fitted to projector type headlamps as the beams don't scatter.

thepharcyde · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:37

http://www.accordr.org/index.php?showtopic=13455&hl=xenon

Car has the standard Accord Type-R Spec:

2001 facelift
Nighthawk Black
2.2litre 212bhp VTEC engine
Recaro seats
Xenon HID Headlights
17" Alloys
Limited Slip Differential
Carbon Fibre interior
Twin tail pipes
Aircon
Accord Type-R matts
Rear Spoiler

Now anyone know how they sort out the alignment without a projector?

Wicksta · 17 Feb 2008 at 11:53

Firestar_3x said:
Just looking at my Ballasts now they seem to be rebranded Philips or Hella ones.

They have a 3rd connection that non of the cheap units have?

Yep, all depends if you want to pay the extra for the added performance i suppose.

I had some ballasts like those, except unbranded ones, and they were appalling. One was leaking high voltage and luckily I only noticed because the light failed as the casing earthed on the car's body. I couldn't work out what was happening until I saw a massive spark while messing about.*It may look like the Hella/Philips ones but I would hope that is just the casing and sticker as the quality of them is so bad.

With regards to light scatter and projector lenses, I had HIDs in my 325ci for 18 months and was not flashed once. However I bought a decent set after the problems with the above ones, and the difference in light scatter was amazing. I have no idea why as the bulbs were installed in the same way, I guess the expensive HID kit had better ones though.

Muncher · 20 Feb 2008 at 12:07

Just came across this picture, halogen on the left, HID on the right. The flare in the centre of the HID is actually the reflection off the garage door as it's so bright. Back away a few feet and you lose the lens flare effect.

Tom|Nbk · 20 Feb 2008 at 15:58

Firestar_3x said:
Just looking at my Ballasts now they seem to be rebranded Philips or Hella ones.

They have a 3rd connection that non of the cheap units have?

Yep, all depends if you want to pay the extra for the added performance i suppose.

Recieved the kit today, looks of very high quality compared to some of the HID kits I have seen before. The ballasts look identical to the Philips ones that Firestar posted obviously without the Philips branding.

Prob have a go at fitting them tommorow or may wait till I can finally get some ST lamps in.

thepharcyde · 20 Feb 2008 at 16:13

Tom|Nbk said:
wait till I can finally get some ST lamps in.

What you going to go for Smoked or the Xenon ones?

later look so much nicer. PS don't get electrocuted fitting these

Psycrow · 20 Feb 2008 at 16:14

To be honest I never really poked around to see if the ATR had projectors, I just assumed they did since a legal requirement. When you fired the lights up they formed a perfect line beam that auto levels, the HID kit on my accord sport threw light all over the shop - So it wasn't the same reflectors as the standard accord.

[TW]Fox · 20 Feb 2008 at 16:16

I dont know why you guys think that becuase they look very similar they are rebranded - they are not. This is what happens with Chinese stuff - it's VERY similar looking to established brands. You should see their cars :eek:

DreXeL · 20 Feb 2008 at 16:31

My Estima has factory Xenons, but doesn't have projectors

It has a kind of 'mask' over the top half of the bulbs though, and I'd guess the reflectors are designed in a different way to those used with normal bulbs.

OllyM · 20 Feb 2008 at 16:33

I guess it's JDM though so hasn't gone through European type approval.

HID Conversion Kits

Man of Honour